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I finally caved in....

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#1 ·
Ordered a Tula Mosin Nagant, 10 stripper clips, and 440 rounds of ammo last week...grand total of $200

Ammo and clips made it...Rifle should be here in the next day or two....Gonna have a hoot cleaning it! :D

Man was it a pain to open that thing without the special tool :rolleyes:

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#4 ·
Dremel tool with cut off wheels along the inner edge.

They're no fun to open even with the can opener unless you're an Olympic weight lifter.:eek:
 
#7 ·
I've got a Russian ammo can opener from an old order of 7.62x39mm. Glad I kept it.

There are some tricks to getting those stripper clips to work quick.

Get rounds loaded so that the rim of each higher round is in fron of the rim of the round below it.
After you insert the clip in teh charging guide on the action, grip the top round from near the front and use it like a lever to push the other rounds into the mag.
Press the top round into the mag.
Push the bolt home sharply to knock the clip out and load the first round.
 
#9 ·
I've got a Russian ammo can opener from an old order of 7.62x39mm. Glad I kept it.

There are some tricks to getting those stripper clips to work quick.

Get rounds loaded so that the rim of each higher round is in fron of the rim of the round below it.
After you insert the clip in teh charging guide on the action, grip the top round from near the front and use it like a lever to push the other rounds into the mag.
Press the top round into the mag.
Push the bolt home sharply to knock the clip out and load the first round.
Thanks for the tips. I did a little research before hand and saw a couple tip videos on youtube.
 
#10 · (Edited)
Dremel tool with cut off wheels along the inner edge.

They're no fun to open even with the can opener unless you're an Olympic weight lifter.:eek:



Ain't that the truth!! I remember being afraid I'd puncture one of the primers and ka-BOOM...:eek:


I've got a Russian ammo can opener from an old order of 7.62x39mm. Glad I kept it.

There are some tricks to getting those stripper clips to work quick.

Get rounds loaded so that the rim of each higher round is in fron of the rim of the round below it.
After you insert the clip in teh charging guide on the action, grip the top round from near the front and use it like a lever to push the other rounds into the mag.
Press the top round into the mag.
Push the bolt home sharply to knock the clip out and load the first round.
That's interesting...only problem I had was the clips were too tight. I took a brass hammer, mounted the clip on a 1/2" steel plate (edge of a shop table top) and tapped away until the rounds fit in nicely. From there, they work great, no worries about stacking, the clip pops right out on it's own.
 
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I do have a question for any experienced members...as far as cleaning the gun goes I plan on soaking the metal parts in either mineral spirits or hot water, wiping off the cosmoline, then wrapping the stock in a garbage bag and leaving it in the sun...This will sweat out the cosmo...will it damage the finish? will I need to re-finish it?

Or just any better ways to do it??

Eventually I would like to make this my first attempt at re finishing a stock. I would like something along the lines of this color. a nice deep reddish brown.

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#13 · (Edited)
Hot water and mineral spirits are the way to go (boiling water will melt it away like snow in the spring)...I've found brake cleaner works well too...just not on the wood :eek: Easy way to get in all the nooks and crannies...sudden craving for an English Muffin...:p

I can't see how the bag/stock/sun idea would damage the finish, it's probably seen worse treatment than that while it was in service.

You might be surprised, some come crazy covered in goo, some not so much...What I did was take the rough side of a terry cloth towel to the stock and rubbed it down really good, still smells like cosmo a little but not greasy at all...:cool:
 
#14 ·
I do have a question for any experienced members...as far as cleaning the gun goes I plan on soaking the metal parts in either mineral spirits or hot water, wiping off the cosmoline, then wrapping the stock in a garbage bag and leaving it in the sun...This will sweat out the cosmo...will it damage the finish? will I need to re-finish it?

Or just any better ways to do it??

Eventually I would like to make this my first attempt at re finishing a stock. I would like something along the lines of this color. a nice deep reddish brown.

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The reddish brown is the color of the shellac used on all Mosins. Typically, the cosmoline does not penetrate the shellac and get into the wood, it just gets into all the nooks and crannies. It's like spilling oil or paint on concrete, doesn't actually penetrate yet it's a real pain to clean up. Any method that melts the cosmo so that it becomes a liquid will work, the trick is being patient enough to wipe small sections at a time and repeat until all traces are gone. Murphy's Oil Soap, Orange Glo, etc are mild enough to degrease the stock without damage. Solvents may remove the finish along with the cosmo and should only be used if you intend to refinsh the stock.

http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f37/mosin-clean-up-50737/
 
#16 ·
well...rifle is in. Got it all cleaned up for the most part. Pics to come soon BUT first...a concern.

sometimes when I close the bolt, the firing pin drops on closing with a loud click. It's almost like it was decocked, but I feel that if a round was in the chamber it may go off...does this only happen with an empty rifle?
 
#17 ·
DON'T ATTEMPT TO USE, FIRE, OR EVEN LOAD.

I don't have mine at hand, so I can't break it down and help you find the problem, but my very first suspect would be the sear/sear notch. These were built so simple that I can't think of anything else right away.
 
#18 ·
Back when the little SKS carbines were $50 bucks they would come in on pallets. They were selling faster than flea soap in a corral. We would lay them in the back of a pick up truck in the car wash. Using the engine shampoo mode we washed then down and used a hot water flush. We stripped them dried them out and used light oil.:)
 
#19 ·
well...rifle is in. Got it all cleaned up for the most part. Pics to come soon BUT first...a concern.

sometimes when I close the bolt, the firing pin drops on closing with a loud click. It's almost like it was decocked, but I feel that if a round was in the chamber it may go off...does this only happen with an empty rifle?
There shouldn't be a click 'til you pull the trigger...or if it's loaded...a BANG.

Are you saying the cocking knob moves forward as you close the bolt? If so, take Trip's advice...DO NOT LOAD THAT GUN!!! :eek:
 
#20 ·
There shouldn't be a click 'til you pull the trigger...or if it's loaded...a BANG.

Are you saying the cocking knob moves forward as you close the bolt? If so, take Trip's advice...DO NOT LOAD THAT GUN!!! :eek:
yep. that's whats happening. I took it apart, cleaned it, let it dry, oiled it, and did a function check.

It's rough to close (Tight action) and maybe 4/10 times the cocking knob slams forward...kinda disappointed...
 
#21 ·
LUBrowningBoy said:
yep. that's whats happening. I took it apart, cleaned it, let it dry, oiled it, and did a function check.

It's rough to close (Tight action) and maybe 4/10 times the cocking knob slams forward...kinda disappointed...
Lucky you, cocking knobs and triggers are cheap and pretty easy to find. I can't link you up to any sites right now, but a quick google search ought to do ya just fine.
 
#22 ·
Lucky you, cocking knobs and triggers are cheap and pretty easy to find. I can't link you up to any sites right now, but a quick google search ought to do ya just fine.
Aw man...it's an all matching Tula gun :'/ lol even the stock, although there is a rectangular chunk by the magazine that was replaced.


I doubt it...but could this be caused by cosmo up in the chamber? I really have to give it a good smack to get the bolt to lock up and it "fires" ~30% of the time
 
#23 ·
yep. that's whats happening. I took it apart, cleaned it, let it dry, oiled it, and did a function check.

It's rough to close (Tight action) and maybe 4/10 times the cocking knob slams forward...kinda disappointed...
That sucks. It's really no big deal to remedy, but after all that work and waiting I bet you're ready to shoot it...sucks...:(

Good thing about these guns is they're cheap, a quick swap of the faulty parts or even the whole dang bolt is pretty painless...Try here...

https://www.buymilsurp.com/mosin-nagant-parts-accessories-c-2.html
 
#24 ·
Cosmo can make it hard to choose the bolt, scrub with a bronze phosphor brush and mineral spirits.

But that should NOT make it "fire" like that. Unless there is a build up of cosmo on the sear/sear notch.

Post some up close, well lighted pics of where the trigger engages the sear notch please.
 
#25 ·
I have a Tula and nothing like that happens. Def get it fixed before loading