I finally caved in....

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by TimL2952, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. TimL2952

    TimL2952 New Member

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    Ordered a Tula Mosin Nagant, 10 stripper clips, and 440 rounds of ammo last week...grand total of $200

    Ammo and clips made it...Rifle should be here in the next day or two....Gonna have a hoot cleaning it! :D

    Man was it a pain to open that thing without the special tool :rolleyes:

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  2. vincent

    vincent New Member

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    Congrats!! You're gonna be very happy with that gun! :D

    Looks like you opened the can with your teeth!! :D
     

  3. TimL2952

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    hammer, needle punch, crow-bar and metal sheers...lol

    Buddy told me to try a hack saw on the corner..didn't work haha
     
  4. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Dremel tool with cut off wheels along the inner edge.

    They're no fun to open even with the can opener unless you're an Olympic weight lifter.:eek:
     
  5. TimL2952

    TimL2952 New Member

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    no dremel tool :/ Just whatever the step dad had haha
     
  6. cj84

    cj84 New Member

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    Where did you buy this?
     
  7. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    I've got a Russian ammo can opener from an old order of 7.62x39mm. Glad I kept it.

    There are some tricks to getting those stripper clips to work quick.

    Get rounds loaded so that the rim of each higher round is in fron of the rim of the round below it.
    After you insert the clip in teh charging guide on the action, grip the top round from near the front and use it like a lever to push the other rounds into the mag.
    Press the top round into the mag.
    Push the bolt home sharply to knock the clip out and load the first round.
     
  8. TimL2952

    TimL2952 New Member

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    The ammo came from SGAmmo.com, the stripper clips came from amazon.com

    The rifle (not pictured) was ordered from ClassicFirearms.com for $105
     
  9. TimL2952

    TimL2952 New Member

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    Thanks for the tips. I did a little research before hand and saw a couple tip videos on youtube.
     
  10. vincent

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    Ain't that the truth!! I remember being afraid I'd puncture one of the primers and ka-BOOM...:eek:


    That's interesting...only problem I had was the clips were too tight. I took a brass hammer, mounted the clip on a 1/2" steel plate (edge of a shop table top) and tapped away until the rounds fit in nicely. From there, they work great, no worries about stacking, the clip pops right out on it's own.
     
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  11. cj84

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    Cool thanks
     
  12. TimL2952

    TimL2952 New Member

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    I do have a question for any experienced members...as far as cleaning the gun goes I plan on soaking the metal parts in either mineral spirits or hot water, wiping off the cosmoline, then wrapping the stock in a garbage bag and leaving it in the sun...This will sweat out the cosmo...will it damage the finish? will I need to re-finish it?

    Or just any better ways to do it??

    Eventually I would like to make this my first attempt at re finishing a stock. I would like something along the lines of this color. a nice deep reddish brown.

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  13. vincent

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    Hot water and mineral spirits are the way to go (boiling water will melt it away like snow in the spring)...I've found brake cleaner works well too...just not on the wood :eek: Easy way to get in all the nooks and crannies...sudden craving for an English Muffin...:p

    I can't see how the bag/stock/sun idea would damage the finish, it's probably seen worse treatment than that while it was in service.

    You might be surprised, some come crazy covered in goo, some not so much...What I did was take the rough side of a terry cloth towel to the stock and rubbed it down really good, still smells like cosmo a little but not greasy at all...:cool:
     
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  14. Jpyle

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    The reddish brown is the color of the shellac used on all Mosins. Typically, the cosmoline does not penetrate the shellac and get into the wood, it just gets into all the nooks and crannies. It's like spilling oil or paint on concrete, doesn't actually penetrate yet it's a real pain to clean up. Any method that melts the cosmo so that it becomes a liquid will work, the trick is being patient enough to wipe small sections at a time and repeat until all traces are gone. Murphy's Oil Soap, Orange Glo, etc are mild enough to degrease the stock without damage. Solvents may remove the finish along with the cosmo and should only be used if you intend to refinsh the stock.

    http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f37/mosin-clean-up-50737/
     
  15. TimL2952

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    Thanks guys. I realise I didn't use the search feature which many take offense to, but time and time again you guys shine through.

    Thanks for the advice!
     
  16. TimL2952

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    well...rifle is in. Got it all cleaned up for the most part. Pics to come soon BUT first...a concern.

    sometimes when I close the bolt, the firing pin drops on closing with a loud click. It's almost like it was decocked, but I feel that if a round was in the chamber it may go off...does this only happen with an empty rifle?
     
  17. trip286

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    DON'T ATTEMPT TO USE, FIRE, OR EVEN LOAD.

    I don't have mine at hand, so I can't break it down and help you find the problem, but my very first suspect would be the sear/sear notch. These were built so simple that I can't think of anything else right away.
     
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    Back when the little SKS carbines were $50 bucks they would come in on pallets. They were selling faster than flea soap in a corral. We would lay them in the back of a pick up truck in the car wash. Using the engine shampoo mode we washed then down and used a hot water flush. We stripped them dried them out and used light oil.:)
     
  19. vincent

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    There shouldn't be a click 'til you pull the trigger...or if it's loaded...a BANG.

    Are you saying the cocking knob moves forward as you close the bolt? If so, take Trip's advice...DO NOT LOAD THAT GUN!!! :eek:
     
  20. TimL2952

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    yep. that's whats happening. I took it apart, cleaned it, let it dry, oiled it, and did a function check.

    It's rough to close (Tight action) and maybe 4/10 times the cocking knob slams forward...kinda disappointed...