[Axxe55]

I spoke w/ my eye doctor this past year about my sight, and using open sights. Because of the focal ability of your eyes, it will become more difficult. I'm lucky I guess, no issue with irons yet.

my long distance eyesight has degraded to a point that bifocals have been needed for about 11 years now. i don't wear my glasses while shooting with scopes, but need them for shooting open sights or pistols. my eye doctor recommended me getting contacts. but that ain't happening. i don't like anything near my eyeballs!

 

[John_Deer]

my long distance eyesight has degraded to a point that bifocals have been needed for about 11 years now. i don't wear my glasses while shooting with scopes, but need them for shooting open sights or pistols. my eye doctor recommended me getting contacts. but that ain't happening. i don't like anything near my eyeballs!

He just wants you to get contacts so he can see you more often. Everyone I know that tried contacts either got glasses or surgery. I am sure you saw Bob Costas during the Olympics. He was right cute with his eyes all swollen preaching Obama's propaganda.

 

[jpattersonnh]

Contacts are really great for some applications. Shooting is not one. You need eye protection anyways.

 

[kbd512]

my long distance eyesight has degraded to a point that bifocals have been needed for about 11 years now. i don't wear my glasses while shooting with scopes, but need them for shooting open sights or pistols. my eye doctor recommended me getting contacts. but that ain't happening. i don't like anything near my eyeballs!

I realize that you don't like wearing contact lenses, but there are contact lenses that reshape the surface of the cornea, worn only at night, that can, so long as you don't have too much astigmatism, give you relatively good vision and eliminate the need to wear heavy prescription glasses. The process is reversible, as in not permanent, and it doesn't carry the risks and complications with it that surgery does.

An optometrist can map the shape of your cornea to see if you're a good candidate. In the span of about 20 to 30 minutes, they can test fit your eyes and your vision will be corrected a number of diopters, typically. Meaning you can test and evaluate the ability of the treatment to do what it's supposed to do. I know of instances where kids were previously wearing coke bottles and now have little to no additional correction needed.

 

[Axxe55]

I realize that you don't like wearing contact lenses, but there are contact lenses that reshape the surface of the cornea, worn only at night, that can, so long as you don't have too much astigmatism, give you relatively good vision and eliminate the need to wear heavy prescription glasses. The process is reversible, as in not permanent, and it doesn't carry the risks and complications with it that surgery does.

An optometrist can map the shape of your cornea to see if you're a good candidate. In the span of about 20 to 30 minutes, they can test fit your eyes and your vision will be corrected a number of diopters, typically. Meaning you can test and evaluate the ability of the treatment to do what it's supposed to do. I know of instances where kids were previously wearing coke bottles and now have little to no additional correction needed.

thank you for the suggestion, but i am one of those people who hates anything being near my eyes. i am not a candidate for eye surgery or contacts!

i will suffer along with my bifocals and just make the best of it. i have other things medically that require my money right now.

 

[jpattersonnh]

thank you for the suggestion, but i am one of those people who hates anything being near my eyes. i am not a candidate for eye surgery or contacts!

i will suffer along with my bifocals and just make the best of it. i have other things medically that require my money right now.

I got a stick and a Red Ryder, wanna try them??

 

[Axxe55]

I got a stick and a Red Ryder, wanna try them??

sure!

i still see decent enough to shoot! and hit what i'm aiming at!

 

[John_Deer]

I realize that you don't like wearing contact lenses, but there are contact lenses that reshape the surface of the cornea, worn only at night, that can, so long as you don't have too much astigmatism, give you relatively good vision and eliminate the need to wear heavy prescription glasses. The process is reversible, as in not permanent, and it doesn't carry the risks and complications with it that surgery does.

An optometrist can map the shape of your cornea to see if you're a good candidate. In the span of about 20 to 30 minutes, they can test fit your eyes and your vision will be corrected a number of diopters, typically. Meaning you can test and evaluate the ability of the treatment to do what it's supposed to do. I know of instances where kids were previously wearing coke bottles and now have little to no additional correction needed.

It is much easier to treat the eyes of children, especially preschoolers. In my time children without obvious vision problems were not given eye exams until they got in school. I have lazy eye, but my eyes track normally. If was born in today's generation my eyes would have been treated in time for the treatment to be effective. Don't feel sorry for me. Most of my life I have had better than average vision.

 

[jpattersonnh]

Boy did we ever derail this tread. My apologize to the OP. Hey I'm 52 tomorrow! I still use irons every chance I get. Love the 8x57, I think it is superior to the .30-06, but that is just my experience. Give it a good stout load w/ 175-200gr and nothing goes far.

 

[nhjon1980]

This has been an interesting thread. As it happens, im near sighted and just started to wear contacts. Itll be interesting to see if its much different than glasses. I plan on using 198gr 8x57 Mauser. Ive always used 180gr .30-06, but we just found some 220gr i believe.


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[phildenton]

This has been an interesting thread. As it happens, im near sighted and just started to wear contacts. Itll be interesting to see if its much different than glasses. I plan on using 198gr 8x57 Mauser. Ive always used 180gr .30-06, but we just found some 220gr i believe.


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Yes there is some 220 if you can find it. Big medicine for moose.

 

[jpattersonnh]

This has been an interesting thread. As it happens, im near sighted and just started to wear contacts. Itll be interesting to see if its much different than glasses. I plan on using 198gr 8x57 Mauser. Ive always used 180gr .30-06, but we just found some 220gr i believe.


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The 220 are really for Magnums. You may find accuracy is so so. Sierra make a 200gr sp that should be perfect.

 

[John_Deer]

Also ask what is your hunting environment? If it's open plains where you'll be taking 300-600 yard shots with a 30X scope, the flatter shooting .30-06 would probably be superior. If hunting in brush or may have to take a shot where the target is behind brush, the heavy bullet 8mm may handle so,e brush-crushing with less deflection. Temperature and barometric pressure may also affect one round over another if follow-up shots are a possibility. Each should be tested in real World conditions to determine if one is better in those conditions.

I agree about the 30/06. Unless you buy big 200 gr+ round nose bullets a 30/06 is like a pinball machine in the woods. Brush that a shotgun slug just plows through will send a 150 gr PSP bullet careening wildly. If I shoot through brush with a 30/06 I am planning to shoot the deer at least twice.

In comparison I have yet to see an 8mm rifle you can hit a deer with. Until I see an accurate 8mm rifle the 30/06 is king. Teddy Roosevelt killed virtually every big game animal in North America with a 30/06. Literally thousands of grand slams have been accomplished with a 30/06. Even African grand slams have been accomplished with a 30/06.

 

[jpattersonnh]

I agree about the 30/06. Unless you buy big 200 gr+ round nose bullets a 30/06 is like a pinball machine in the woods. Brush that a shotgun slug just plows through will send a 150 gr PSP bullet careening wildly. If I shoot through brush with a 30/06 I am planning to shoot the deer at least twice.

In comparison I have yet to see an 8mm rifle you can hit a deer with. Until I see an accurate 8mm rifle the 30/06 is king. Teddy Roosevelt killed virtually every big game animal in North America with a 30/06. Literally thousands of grand slams have been accomplished with a 30/06. Even African grand slams have been accomplished with a 30/06.

JD, I agree with you many times, not this one. There never has been a U.S. company that made a 8x57 rifle. The majority of 8x57 rifles are vet bring backs and bubba specials. You need to try a true purpose built 8x57 hunter. Most people have never seen one.

 

[John_Deer]

JD, I agree with you many times, not this one. There never has been a U.S. company that made a 8x57 rifle. The majority of 8x57 rifles are vet bring backs and bubba specials. You need to try a true purpose built 8x57 hunter. Most people have never seen one.

I agree 100% but I have seen a bunch of vet bring backs that were accurate, except the 8mm and the type 53 mosin nagant. I have even pulled 303 Brit rifles out of the junk drum that were accurate with a little TLC. I have seen a bunch of Ariska 6.5x50 rifles that were accurate.

I have never seen a bubba job that was accurate.

 

[jpattersonnh]

I agree 100% but I have seen a bunch of vet bring backs that were accurate, except the 8mm and the type 53 mosin nagant. I have even pulled 303 Brit rifles out of the junk drum that were accurate with a little TLC. I have seen a bunch of Ariska 6.5x50 rifles that were accurate.

I have never seen a bubba job that was accurate.

I have 2 very accurate 8x57's. One is a K98k Low turret w/ a Zeiss Zeilvier from 1945.
2nd is a 1955 Husqvarna 640, built on a 1947 FN '98 receiver. The Swede's bought 10,000 receivers in 1947, and built on them until 1962. Under 1000 per year. These were hand crafted rifles. You need to get out a bit more.
My Dad was in the Pacific During WWII. His thought on the 6.5 Jap is quite different then yours.

 

[MVG]

100 times the Mauser.Greater punch(4096 J),superb accuracy, smooth, reliable and easy to use.A piece of cake if you have to knock down a big game animal.

 

[jpattersonnh]

8x57 Heavy Ball or sS 198gr have a supersonic range of 1094 yards before it drops below supersonic. Even by todays standards, that is quite impressive. A scope cammed for this round is easily an 800 yard killer, even with a 4x scope.
I've got about 1500 rounds of it for my low turret.

 

[jpattersonnh]

Don't get me wrong. The .30-06 (7.62x63) is a fine round. It just for some reason gives up power when you shoot over 180gr bullets to the 7.92x57 in commercial rounds and especially reloads. The plus side of lighter bullets in both calibers is the person shooting 300 yards and under. You can zero at 200 yards and have an effective zero out to 300 w/ maybe a slight hold over. Again though, I would stay with 160..165gr. They are both Elk calibers w/ 160..165gr out to 300 yards without question. You will never be undergunned in the lower 48 with either.

 

[jpattersonnh]

Sad part is the OP has not been around since 6/2