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Scope for Browning BuckMark Camper 5.5" barrel?

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#1 ·
I'd like to shoot a 2" target center from 20'. 50rds timed fire for local tryouts. I thought about a Buckmark reflex sight for $45.00 or a decent pistol scope, but I don't have any idea what I need for a 20'-30' 2.6" target. I need to hit five targets with 2 shots 1st string, 1 shot 2nd string and 2 shots again for 3rd string. 30 seconds each string. Then setup another target of 5 targets same scenario until all 50 rds have been expended. Total of 90 seconds per target and 3 minutes for both targets. anyone care to coach me alittle and make suggestions for an old shooter. best regards, Paul
 
#2 ·
Don't know what kind of scope mounting system that model requires, but a good micro red dot would be your best bet.

Primary Arms
HoloSun
Bushnell TRS-25.

These 3 RD's come to mind as they're built like tanks and have great reviews.

HoloSun is manufacturer for the PA company.

I'm using a HoloSun HS403A on a SHTF AR15 and have been quite pleased with it. Has 50,000 battery life, automatic on/off to save battery life, water-proof to 100ft, 2-MOA dot, and parallax free from 0ft to infinity.

There's a video --- primary arms abuse test on AK74 ---- these guys run this RD literally into the ground and scope still works.

As to the Bushnell TRS-25, they have some great reviews, but don't own one.

PA and HoloSun also has some variable scopes if that's your choice.
 
#6 ·
Buckmark scope

I put a Sightmark on my Buckmark to shoot in the American Marksman Competition.

Just some advice: you need to be faster than 30 seconds per string if you want to be competitive.
I looked at the overall results and the Mid South has the best. The best score so far is 11.??seconds, by the same competitor and for both pistol and rifle. A score that fast, without any penalties, had to be done by someone who practices, "a lot". I'm concentrating on "No" penalties, better slower to fire than to be fast and add 4-6 second penalties. This will be a very fun amateur competition. Best regards and Thank you for good advice on managing the "time" to be competitive.
 
#7 ·
30 seconds per string equals 1 minute and 30 seconds for that target. You get to shoot at two targets and they take the best of the two for your final score.
I shoot at the target like my pants are on fire and I need to put that fire out!
Believe me when I say this: slow is not better, you will not andvance this way.
Shoot at the targets like they are going to use BOTH of them for your final score and watch your speed increase.
Start shooting at the bottom targets first and work your way up making a Z pattern or a flipped Z pattern. This will shave some time off your score. Go as fast as you can and don't worry to much about accuracy at first. That will come with practice. It is just like a golf swing, it is muscle memory.
 
#8 ·
Buckmark camper

The best of two targets, 25 rds per target. Wow, I misread the rules, thought it was a combination, thank you for clearer interpretation. Have you or are you going to compete? I'm used to reading, shooting, most that I process mentally from a left to right. So that's "eye muscle memory(?)" for me. If I had more time to practice a different "technique", I'd give the zig zag approach a try, in fact, I will try it today, but I suspect I'll remain more comfortable with what I've been doing for many years. I ordered the ammarksman targets, be here next Monday. For now, using 3" targets with 2" black centers.
 
#9 · (Edited)


25 bulls eyes. I shot these in about 15 1/2 seconds using my rifle (the one in my Avatar)



This is our practice area, private range and yes I have qualified.

Use masking tape to cover your bullet holes. This will make your targets last a lot longer.

The National Target Company has practice targets. 25 for $6.50 plus shipping.

You have plenty of time to practice. The deadline is May 31st. Remember all you need to do at this point is, is to qualify. You can practice more during the lull between rounds.
 
#10 ·
That's awesome Artie1957. Truly is :). And....I realized I already shoot a zigzag pattern. Left to right, top to bottom, thus "zigzag". I'm shooting in Lewisville, TX, Eagle Gun Range, deadline is May 27th to qualify there. Next week, I plan to shoot (veteran) to qualify. Thank you for replying on this post. I've been shooting quite a few years, CMP M-1 at Oklahoma, .45acp at Camp Rogers, Ark., but never .with .22pistol or this potential level of competition. I'm excited there is now a "amateur" competition recognized nation wide. May have been already but this event has been easy to keep up with. One other thing, you are suggesting speed to accuracy? I haven't timed myself yet but my accuracy, with the iron sights, was 90+%. Today, I try the Buckmark red dot and I'll try to have someone time me. It may help me get on target quicker, my hopes.
 
#11 ·
Good shooting Artie1957. I'm gonna take your helpful advice and try the flipflop zigzag. Plus, it'll be first try with my new red dot, hopefully can find someone to time me. Using a Ruger 10/22 with Sightmark red dot for the rifle competition. Thank you for informative replies, been very helpful.
 
#12 ·
If you have a smart phone you can download an App called...yep you guessed it "Shot Timer" and it is free. The beep isn't very loud though.

Speed is everything in this competition. Lets look at why:

Let's say you shoot you first string of ten bullets and score a perfect round but, shoot it in 30 seconds. Now let's say you shoot that same string in 5.50 seconds but have 5 in the rings with 5 bulls eyes. That's 5.5 plus your 10 penalty seconds right? That's a total of 15.50 seconds you beat the perfect 30 second string by almost half.
Even if you hit all of them in the rings with no bulls eyes you still score 25.50, beating the 30 second string by 4.50 seconds.

I shoot mine from the bottom up in a Z pattern, right to left, then to the middle, then right to left at the top. The reason I do this is because the rules state that you are allowed to take a sight picture before you start. Meaning you can't start by aiming at the first target. I start with the barrel at about a 45 degree angle pointed down. At the beep I raise the barrel take aim and begin my run.
 
#15 ·
'll check the trigger pull video out Artie1957, thank you. I tried the "shooting like pants on fire" vs. slower for accuracy, and I'll be doggone if my times, 21 seconds using friends watch, was the approx. same on both timed cycles. Iaw I had a couple 2sec. penalties with faster fire but even slower shooting I still had one 2 sec. penalty. And I repeated the process several times and everytime the outcome was about the same. So, I'll definitely will shoot faster and accept that is how I'm going to shoot now. With practice, it'll get better faster and accuracy will improve. I shot a couple "fast" targets without any penalties as I did with the slower firing without penalties. Only difference was I shot about 2.5-3.0 seconds slower. I'll get my official targets Monday so definitely will do some timed shootings and will shoot to qualify next week. As long as I'm below 25 seconds I'll leave things alone, but if over 30sec. I'll do a reshoot since there will be enough time. I'm fine with rifle but experienced magazine problems. Plan to get 3 new 10rd Ruger rotary mags. today/tmrw.
 
#20 ·
The TRS 25 works great on the 10-22 but I did not like it on the pistol as I had trouble finding the dot quickly. I did better with fiber optic sights. The Burris FF3 looks like it would work better on the pistol but I have not been able to try one.