Your thoughts on the Kahr P .380?

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by UnderFire, Apr 29, 2009.

  1. UnderFire

    UnderFire New Member

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    I was wondering if any of you own a Kahr P380?

    I do. Found one at a gun show a couple of weeks ago and bought it.
    I have ran 150 rounds thru it and getting closer to break-in condition as the owner manual describes.
    This weapon is the perfect pocket gun-IMO

    According to some magazine articles I've read about some loading issues...
    Has anyone had problems with their Kahr P380?
     
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  2. gas89

    gas89 New Member

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    kahr probs

    Picked a P380 last week. Cleaned and oiled as always. Attempted to run 220 rounds through it. Probably 40 failures. Wont feed, wont extract. Name it. Don't think it is anything I am doing since my LCP which gets identical treatment runs well (occasional light strikes since recall work but that is another story). Only pistol that doesn't function near 100% for me inlcuding a mk9 elite. Will clean and lube and try again but there isn't enough 380 ammo in the state to keep fighting this one. Better in every other way than the LCP. Of course, if it wont run, not even heavy enough to keep paper from blowing away...
     

  3. UnderFire

    UnderFire New Member

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    gas89-

    I haven't heard of that many problems with the P.380.
    The only problem I've heard of but have not experienced is that the ammo hits the loading chute of the barrel and causes a jam. The loading chute does wear-in within it's recommended "Break-In Period". This was a problem with the first few off the production line. I can only imagine that the problem has been rectified since mine is number 4## off the line.

    Sorry to hear about all your problems. Although I own a couple of Kahr's and like their product very much, if I had that many issues I would return it to the dealer for refund or credit.
     
  4. Joe from N.Y.

    Joe from N.Y. New Member

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    P380 problems

    Man, I had the same problems with my right out of the box P380 the first day I got it. I must say that it was a very discouraging experience. Right from the first round, i experienced jams with numerous failure to feed instances. At first, the magazines would not feed with more than four rounds loaded. They seem to have loosened up after a while, to actually feed six rounds. Upon closer inspection, after a while, i was able to observe that as one inserts a loaded magazine, the end of the slide stop was protruding into the magazine well, and contacting the top of the round, basically obstructing it and thereby preventing it from loading into the barrel chamber properly. i also experienced several instances where the round would jam at about a 45 degree angle between the barrel and rear of the slide. Occasionally the round would make it further into the barrel before jamming with the slide stuck partially back. This necessitated a sharp blow to the rear of the slide with the palm of the left hand to get the slide closed properly.

    I called Kahr that evening, and explained my frustrating problems to them. They sent me a prepaid FedEx sticker to Priority Overnight it to them and about 3 weeks later i got it back (they paid shipping again) . It now shoots perfectly. They polished the feed ramp, put a new slide plate, new spring, and probably filed down the slide stop (although they didn't mention it on the list of repairs done). I am quite pleased with their customer service and the gun in general. I carry it everyday in my back pocket in a Nemesis holster and it is the best $600 gun i ever bought. They get an A+ in their effort to keep a customer happy. i could have returned it to the shop i got it from (South Shore Sportsman in Merrick NY, an excellent bunch of guys BTW) but i figured that the factory will give it extra special attention the second time around. All in all i am completely satisfied with the gun and service.
     
  5. Defender

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    If I were to buy a Kahr, it would be the PM9.
     
  6. Taazzz

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    Got mine last week, and LOVE IT! After getting it I cleaned & oiled it as if I had been at the range with it all day. I then set off for two different ranges (each would only sell me two boxes of ammo for use on their range only). I also had the box of ammo that I was allowed to purchase with the gun, so was able to put 250 round through it. (100 Blazer, cleaned it again, and then at the next range, 100 Winchester & 50 Remington rounds) Not a single malfunction. Now all I need to do is put a couple of boxes of my chosen carry ammo through it, and it will become my everyday carry, when my PM-9 is not convienient.
     
  7. ccr203

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    Don't have one, like the idea that of the pocket 380. I have had a few 380s over the years and the only one I have had that was 100% reliable for me was the one I kept. That is the Beretta 85, single stack. Just my 380 experence.

    And in Ohio, to find 380 ammo is like finding the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

    Stay safe,

    Chris
     
  8. UnderFire

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    Joe from N.Y.,
    Glad to hear all went well w/ your P380.
    I'm just wondering if yours has a low serial number?
    I had heard from a Kahr rep. that the first batch off the production line did have issues.
     
  9. group17

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    I like the look of Kahr's and have read good things about them.
    Hopefully yours can be put back into working order.

    I wouldn't have the patience to go through 40 FTF out of 200+ rounds, especially with a $600 gun. Hope it comes back fixed from Kahr.

    I have a Bersa duo 380T that has been totally reliable. Really fits the hand well and It only cost me $220NIB. The hardest thing about a 380 is finding reasonably priced ammo.
    My brother bought a slightly used Beretta 84BB 380 for $300 which is about the same size as my Bersa. That also shoots great and has been very reliable.
    Seems to be a lot of new 380's being made out there.
     
  10. UnderFire

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    This isn't a regular problem with the P380. They're a great gun, pricey, but worth having if you want a .380 for backup/pocket carry.
    For some reason the first batch off the production line had issues.
    One remedy was to redesign the loading chute.
    I'm sure the ones hitting the stores now have no issues at all.
    Since gas89 only posted one time, all negative, I would say he's just a Kahr hater. But on the other hand, Joe from N.Y. posted his problems and the fix.
    So I would be more willing to believe his (Joe from N.Y.) experiences than gas89's.
     
  11. Parzinski

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    Got a P380 a few months back...jammed like crazy..put 400+ rounds thru it...no improvement..

    sent it back to factory....got it back a week later...put 150 rounds thru...1 jam..

    i thought the problem was solved...started carrying it again...then two days ago I tried to chamber a round and ...JAM...

    What should I do? send it back again..ask for a refund/credit?
     
  12. UnderFire

    UnderFire New Member

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    :rolleyes: Troll?
    Here's another 1 post member bashing a quality product.:rolleyes:
    How long did it take you to find this topic?
     
  13. stalkingbear

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    I'm inclined to agree with you Underfire. 1 post and bashing something is awfully suspicious.
     
  14. Agent_H

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    I daily carry my Kahr K9 and have put well over 1200 rounds through it. Besides tricky to disassemble it is one of the most reliable weapons I have ever owned. Sorry to hear about your p.380.

    Don't feed the trolls?
     
  15. UnderFire

    UnderFire New Member

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    Agent_H

    I own 2 Kahr firearms: CW40 & P380.
    Haven't had a problem with any of the two.
    They both get carry time. I've noticed that Kahr firearms work flawless for me & other owners. Now I know that they're not perfect, but there's not a firearm product that is. I am aware of the problem that Kahr had with the P380 at the start of production. It was a minor problem that the company rectified soon after discovering it.
     
  16. mag318

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    I bought a Ruger LCP but found it uncomfortable to shoot, and during extened range seesions it became downright painful. When I saw my first P380 I bought it and it totally outclasses the LCP. The slide locks open after the last shot, the sights were a huge improvement, and the trigger is silky smooth. I have about 700 rnds thru the P380 with assorted ammo and functioning has be 100% perfect. I would highly recommend this pistol to anyone looking for a pocket 380, Kahr is going to sell a lot of these.
     

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  17. Parzinski

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    It took me about 30 seconds..I googled "p380 jamming" ...and this site with this thread appeared...looked like a great forum so I joined....and posted my concern with my p380

    I own a P9 and love it..never had a problem...So I'm not trying to bash Kahr...but the p380 has had jamming issues...(admitted by service tech i spoke to at Kahr and several other gun shop owners who have had to send p380's back to Kahr)..
     
  18. neilshupak55

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    just got one..at the range it had trouble ejecting the last shell casing.it hung up on the follower in the clips. I rounded the edges off the follower and it solved that problem....had a few misfires due to very shallow firing pin strike, and one stovepipe mal..also dislikes crappy imported ammo.I'm at 150 rounds and plan 200-250 more before we are bonded and I'm confident it will fire every time...also seems to shoot low and to the left..I do better point and shoot opposed to aiming....like the quality and feel also put a clip extender on it.big improvement
     
  19. neilshupak55

    neilshupak55 New Member

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    p-380 break in

    well....I put another 100 rounds thru my p-380 after a cleaning and full inspection.used quality ammo and only had 2 malfunctions..1 ejecton and one failed to chamber fully.overall I think this is a high quality carry pistol that likes good ammo and oil..good groups at rapid fire-point and shoot...now to find some 380 defense rounds.....peace and be careful out there:)
     
  20. elchino

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    I purchased a used P380 for a great price ($350.00). Whoever purchased it - had some jams and brought it back within a day or two. The shop owner mentioned the buyer didn't consider he had to break in a $600 gun - so he sold it.

    I own a PM9 and know about the break-in period. I have now put 250 rounds and have experienced some failures to eject. During the first 250 rounds - failed 3x. Today after 100 rounds it jammed 1x.

    I have called Kahr and they mentioned that my serial number (3XXX) shows it was made in Nov 2009 and that there was no recall.

    I have had to use a flat head screwdriver to remove the spent casing as it is still in the barrel partially ejected. When I did this today I noticed the following round wouldn't load. The slide would not even return. I slapped the magazine end as it looked like it was coming out and it loaded and fired fine.

    Is it possible that activating the magazine release accidentally while shooting could cause these issues?

    Also, noticed it happens with PMC Blazer and Remington UMC ammo most of the time. Never happened with Fiocchi - for what it is worth.

    Any help or addl info would be great!!:)
     
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