Your thoughts for a bear and moose round; 300WM, 300RUM or 338WM?

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  1. JPB

    JPB New Member

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    Ok guys, the old question im sure you all have heard before.

    I searched the forum, but didnt find what i was looking for.

    I am in the market for a new rifle for bear and moose.

    Living in New Brunswick we have some nice bruins, moose isent bad either.

    I am currently using a 30-06 which is working great, however, had a close call with a bruin this fall while stalking it.

    The bear I shoot always goes to meat and I keep the hides, so I dont want to cause a ton of damage, if ya know what I mean (Exit Wound).

    Question:

    Was looking at:

    300 WM

    300 RUM

    338 WM


    I do go to the range here quite a bit, and I reload.

    The rifle I choose will also be used at "long distance" at the range 300-500 yds.

    What do ya all think?

    TKS,
    JPB
     
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  2. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Personally I would go for the 338WM or consider a 375HH or one of the other 375's.
     
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  3. hunter Joe

    hunter Joe New Member

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    Any of the above including the 06 are great, although, IMHO bullet selection makes a huge difference. I used a 200 grain Noslers Partition bullet in a 300 WM on a bear, (see my profile) instanly killed it graveyard dead without destroying the hide or too much meat.
     
  4. freefall

    freefall New Member

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    I like my .338 Win. I think major meat damage is mainly due to hydrostatic shock induced by high velocity. I think around 2700 fps is the magic number where you start blood shooting lots of meat. Get up around 3000-3200 and you get lots of blood sausage.
     
  5. JPB

    JPB New Member

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    Tks for your imput guys.

    So you think that a flatter shooting 300RUM or WBY might be a bit much?

    Just curious.

    Oh and I use Premium Ammo reloads mostly:D
     
  6. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I had a custom 308 Norma Magnum. The 338WM was easier on the shoulder. High velocity destroys meat on both ends.
     
  7. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Well-Known Member

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    If I was in your shoes, I'd grab a good 338WM and not look back.
     
  8. jpattersonnh

    jpattersonnh Active Member

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    I really think for smaller East coast Moose and bear a .300WM would be fine. I use a 7mmRM even out west on tougher game. Your bullet selection is more important. For both moose and bear hunting I also like the option of open sights just in case it gets up close and personnal. I don't mind getting as close as possible. That makes the hunt. If I were building a serious big game rifle, only 1 caliber comes to mind. 9.3x62. With a 200 yard zero, you could toss a Swift A-frame 250gr w/ a +2.5 at 100, and -4.3 at 250 yards. The 285..286gr are better at +2 and -4.4. It is a pure pile driver. Forget velocity for a minute.
    You need to remember your $ constraints from your other thread. $1,000 or so. A .300WM barreled action is $515.00, stock..$100. Bases, rings, scope..$400.00 easy. Add $200.00 and you could really have a nice rig. My sons 6.5x55 is going to be almost $100.00 more than I thought. It would do the same as what you are asking of a rifle. Best of luck.
     
  9. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    jp, Isnt the 9.3x62 pretty close the the 35 Whalen? He could just rebarrel his current 30-06 if that is the case or rebarrel to the 9.3. I believe the 358 Norma Mag would also fit the 06 action. Of coure he just might want another gun.
     
  10. JPB

    JPB New Member

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    OK tks for all your input.

    How does this sound?

    .338 win mag vanguard with knoxx axiom stock to help with recoil.

    that will give me lots to play with a decent scope...

    And yeah I need to keep the 30-06.
     
  11. jpattersonnh

    jpattersonnh Active Member

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    9.3x57 is close to .35 Whelen, 9.3x62 is a whole new ballgame.
     
  12. freefall

    freefall New Member

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    Shoot the Vanguard as is for a while before you drop $ on aftermarket stock. I don't find .338 recoil all that objectionable.
     
  13. whtsmoke

    whtsmoke New Member

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    i like the 338, have had one for some time and use it deer hunting also. I found the with the right bullet and load its a pretty good allround caliber.