Your Call, Convince Me

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by Benning Boy, Jan 20, 2010.

  1. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    I generally can afford one piece a year. Last year sucked financially, hence the Hi Point purchase.

    This year, if my stars allign, I've narrowed it down to a 1911, probably a Springfield, or the XD Tactical.

    I've handled both, I'm comfortable either way.

    I have the XD Compact, accurate beyond belief. And I like the high capacity.

    I like the slim factor of the 1911.

    I will go with the numbers factored with the convincing argument.

    What say ye?
     
  2. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    Tough one BB as I'm a fan of both platforms. Until I picked up the FNP 9 so cheap, the only poly guns I owned were XD's. My personal choice, twas I in your shoes, would be a Springer Mil-Spec (not the GI). I picked up my last one, barely used, for $500 - which included 3 mags and 2 boxes of ammo...
     

  3. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Why not get both, one this year & one next year. I have the XD45 tactical and will eventually get a basic 1911 when i can carry.
     
  4. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    First, a question, do you already have a 1911? If you don't, go for the SA Mil Spec model. It has better sights, lowered & flared ejection port and some stuff I don't remember that the G.I. doesn't. If the G.I. is what's in the budget, then get the G.I., you'll be happy either way and you can always change the sights later if you feel it's necessary.

    My thinking is this: Get the handgun that was the inspiration for many other pistols as well as the model for the XD's grip safety. Go for the original. You will be very, very happy and you won't look back. :cool:
     
  5. hunter Joe

    hunter Joe New Member

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    As long as you go with the Springfield, you can't go wrong. I'm looking at the Champion Operator just in case we here in Wisconsin get CC.
     
  6. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Active Member

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    If you don't already have a 1911 you owe it to yourself to get 1. A good 1911 purchase is never regretted. I only have 2 1911s right now but am looking to add a 3rd when I can afford it (will likely build it). Too many people poo poo the capacity of the 1911 when attempting to explain preference polymer framed high capacity pistols. After all-how many times are you planning to miss? Not only that but you can get a Para Ordnance with up to 14+1 capacity if you so desire. They're now made in the USA. You already have 1 XD-now's the time to get another platform.
     
  7. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    Good points. I think my biggest purely emotional issue is capacity, and I know logically I don't see running out, if I go 1911, I'm getting lots of magazines.

    If I did the G.I. model, would there be any modifications I would need to look into immediately?
     
  8. russ

    russ New Member

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    I can't speak to the Springer GI model, but I have the Para Ordnance GI Expert and I'm happy with it. The hard plastic grip panels went away immediately and that's all I've done to it. Could it use a better trigger? Sure. But for $465.27 I'm not complaining. I added a couple Chip McCormick super mags for the 10 round capacity and I'm happy as a pig in dooty.:D
     
  9. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    BB, (my family calls me BB btw,lol)

    Would this be for carry or home?

    I'm in the same situation. I have researched 1911's and handled so many 1911's I'm having brainfarts as to what was what. A 1911 will also be my next gun purchase and my first 1911.

    If you can afford it and can find one, get a Dan Wesson. They make good quality 1911's out of excellent parts. They are a small company and only make so many. The 2010 models aren't out yet, but somehow the 2009 models went to the 2010 prices already. :rolleyes:

    Others I have considered if that falls through are Springfield Champion, Smith&Wesson PD, Kimber Raptor,cdp, or pro carry.

    I'm staying away from taurus 1911's,RIA, and any made in the Phillipines.

    Good luck on your journey, I am happy for you!
     
  10. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 1911s made in the Philippines as they are well made with great customer service. I'd buy another Rock Island in a heartbeat and the Tactical is a great value for the money. The tiny sights on the GI are the real drawback and since the ejection port is not flared & lowered either - the brass gets beat up which is bad for reloaders. The Mil-Spec is worth the few extra dollars as it will cost at least the difference in price to upgrade the GI. While I recommended the Springer Mil-Spec, you would be just as well served by a Rock Island Tactical at the $500 price point.

    I've owned multiples of every gun I've mentioned so I'm speaking from experience - not just passing along interwebz comments. Over the past few years I've owned probably 2 dozen different 1911s from Colt, Dan Wesson, Kimber, Springer, Para, and Rock Island as well as in every size and configuration.

    Many folks balk at capacity, especially when coming over from the poly platforms. Me, I know that 8 rounds of .45 will accomplish the mission and you can always carry extra mags.
     
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  11. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    Benning, it's well known here that I am an XD fan. My XD45 was my first pistol, it's accurate, still feels good in my hand and has a high capacity. I had a SC9 which was the same. When I finally gave in to the curiousity of the 1911(and got past my rust issues) I was hooked. It wasn't instant for me but after shooting it a little bit, twice actually, I was a fan and I've been shooting it ever since. I became such a fan of the nice clean trigger break and the ease at which it pointed that I started to notice how thin it was. I too am thin and hiding my XD was easy with a coat on but not in just a shirt. My Kimber will disappear in shorts and a t shirt. I like Cane's LCR but he has 5 rounds of 38 and I have 9 of 45ACP(sorry cane).

    Now, if you called me up and said, "Spitty, the s**t has hit the fan and we're going in hot" I'm going to reach for my XD. Why? It points nearly as well as the 1911, it's easier to clean and field strip and war would be the one place I'm concerned about capacity(or if I was LEO)XD-13+1, 1911 8+1.
    If you said, "hey homie, let's take the honeys down to white castle and grab a slider" I'm reaching for my Kimber.

    If you don't own a 1911, get one.....get a nice one. I LOVE my Kimber, goes everywhere I go and let's be honest. You can't call yourself a man if you don't own a 45 auto. :cool:
     
  12. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    I bow to your experience NGIB. :)
     
  13. hunter Joe

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    I had a guy at the shop last week that shoots a Rock Island and he just loves it. He told me that the Rock will eat anything he puts through it including hollow points. I'm going with the Champion Operator because of Springfield's commitment to customer service and their life-time warranty. Also, I get a huge discount for being an employee of a gun shop.
     
  14. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    Okay, I'm sold.

    My initial point of reference is the 1911 issued in the Army before they switched down. Are the multitude of available civilian models that claim to be G.I., military classic, government model, etc., actually close to those specs, or is it a sales gimmick?
     
  15. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    A lot of the base models are very close to the GI specs. The Springer GI and base Rock Island come to mind as 2 affordable entries. The tiny GI sights don't work for me which is why I prefer the Mil-Spec over the GI. Springer likes to confuse folks by using the term mil-spec on a couple of models. The pure Springer GI has vertical slide serrations and the actual Mil-Spec has angled slide serrations...
     
  16. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    Shop around my friend. I got my Kimber for less then what the Springfields are bringing, GI or Milspec.
     
  17. utf59

    utf59 New Member

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    First, if you are thinking about modifying a 1911, research carefully before you buy. For example, the sights on the Springfield G.I. can't be readily changed for many of the better sights without re-milling the slide.

    I had a Springfield G.I. and was unhappy with it. Springfield's customer service was great, and the work they did when I sent it back did help. But I wouldn't have trusted my life to it. Two friends bought G.I. models at the same time I did — one was unhappy also (different issues from mine) and the other is still enjoying his (no problems whatsoever).

    If I were going to buy another Springer 1911, I would go farther up their scale.
     
  18. jimbobpissypants

    jimbobpissypants New Member

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    Every "gun guy" needs a 1911. If you ain't got one, you ain't a gun guy. Also, if you already have a higher capaciy pistol, get the 1911. For me, I would first consider which type of gun I don't already have and try to fill the void. If I didn't have either, I'd hit the guns shop, put them side by side, and I would know which one I want first.
    Good luck with your decision. I love when I have such tough choices.