XD/Winchester Target Range Ammo

Discussion in 'XD Forum' started by Tackleberry1, Apr 5, 2010.

  1. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    I bought my XD Service Model .45 ACP back in 05. Have roughly 2000 rounds through it with ZERO malfunctions until last Saturday.
    I was shooting Winchester Target/Range 230gr FMJ and had 4 FTF's.
    Pull the trigger and "CLICK"
    After keeping it down range and counting to 60 just in case, I'd drop the mag and rack the slide to eject the unfired cartridge. All 4 FTF cartridges had a firing pin dent in the primer but failed to detonate. The "dents" were about 1/4 the depth of the dent's in my spend brass collection but I was not able to compare it to spent cases from the XD on the day in question as we were shooting in 8" of snow.
    I feel this must be due to 1 of 2 possibilities. Either:
    1. I've gotten ahold of an ammo run with hard primers?
    2. My firing pin and or spring needs replaced.

    Anyone else encountered this with .45 ACP XD's or with .45 ACP Winchester Target/Range 230gr FMJ?

    Thanks
     
  2. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    If you have fired this gun a lot, you may need to have the striker pulled and the striker channel cleaned. I have seen a BUNCH of gunk from carbon/oil mixture to brass shavings in firing pin/striker channels. They can build up to the point they cause some failures to fire. It may not be every time, but enough to make you go "WTF?".

    I doubt the striker/spring is bad, that rarely happens. You should always keep the firing pin/striker to prevent this from happening as easily.
     

  3. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    Can the firing pin channel be dissasembled for cleaning by the owner or is this something better left to a gun smith?

    I've never broken anything down beyond field stripping for cleaning.
     
  4. glock2740

    glock2740 New Member

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    WWB ammo has been turning out alot of junk lately. QC has gone to hell. Probably because they are trying to make so fast,, that they don't care what slips through the cracks. I would chalk it up to the ammo and not your XD.
     
  5. gorknoids

    gorknoids New Member

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    I've been assured by a polymer-hating Range Ruler that it was the Winchester ammo, and to not bother having the Croatian Sensation looked at.
    Never had an issue with Remington, and have burnt exponentially more rounds of it than the WWB.
     
  6. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    As Robo stated it wouldn't hurt to have the striker channel cleaned. But I've gone to the point of intentionally dirtying (about 1,500 or so, w/o cleaning) my XD in an attempt to create a malfunction of some sort and haven't been able to.

    I've also shot thousands of Winchester target rounds varying from .38 special to .45 in the recent months and have not experienced any malfunctions. This is not to say that a bad batch hasn't made it's way out to consumers due to excessive production, but I think it may be too early to point fingers.

    Give her a good cleaning, shoot it up with a bunch of ammo, including Winchester target and see what results. Please post it, cause I'm very curious now.
     
  7. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    Thank for the info fellas!

    I figured out how to remove the rear plate, spring, plug, ect...and shot the hell out of it with Action Blaster.

    I let the residue drip into a white towel and did find a fair amount of copper shavings. She's re-assembled and back in the safe. I'll try to get her out next weekend for a few Assorted boxes to see if I can recreate the problem and I'll post the results for consumption.

    I'm starting to think this was caused by the metal shavings and not the ammo but who knows? Being my first "striker" gun, I'd never given a thought to cleaning the channel before tonight. I don't think this is a reflection on the XD as much as an embarrasing reflection of my piss poor maintenace.

    Drill Sergeant Christensen is rolling over in his grave...:eek:
     
  8. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    Robo nailed it.

    I finally got my XD .45 ACP back to the range after breaking down the firing pin channel and blowing the hell out of it w/Action Blaster which removed a bunch of copper shavings.

    I put 300 rounds through it, a mix of the same Winchester that had failed to detonate before plus some HSM factory reloads and a box of PMC.

    Zero malfunctions.:)

    Thanks for the advice. My XD is back it true form and I learned something new about striker guns.

    Tack
     
  9. gorknoids

    gorknoids New Member

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    I stand my slide on end and flush the channel out with WD-40 while depressing the striker block and cycling the firing pin back and forth. I haven't tried breaking the bolt down yet, but prolly should, huh?
     
  10. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    Eh. . . I usually wait until a problem occurs, unless it is your primary SD weapon of course. ;)
     
  11. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    I'd say yes. My XD had run perfectly for over 5 yrs until that snowy trip up the mountain. I think it had finally accumulated enought copper shavings to impede the firing pin because it was failing to discharge at least 1 rnd per mag. Just happy it occured durring practice and gratefull Robo had the right answer for me.
     
  12. gorknoids

    gorknoids New Member

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    Thanks for the heads-up, Tack!
     
  13. tacticaljim

    tacticaljim New Member

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    what.

    ive kicked a lot of zombie target a$*!! with mine and never had this problem. atleast you fixed it thought :confused:
     
  14. Elemental

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    Was this difficult to do? Any hints or tips? I would like to attempt this, but I have visions of me fumbling around with it, and.....SPROINGGGGG!.....parts flying all over my basement :eek:
     
  15. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    Glad to hear it worked out. Maybe I should take my XD apart just in case. I've got over 2000 rds thru it and while it doesn't see regular duty anymore if I reach for it, it needs to work. I haven't had a single problem so far but a preventative cleaning couldn't hurt.
     
  16. kusterleXD

    kusterleXD New Member

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    Likewise with my XD, although I don't have 2,000 rounds through it yet.
     
  17. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    It was pretty easy, just depress the plastic ring in the middle of the rear plate. This ring is where the "cocked indicator" protrudes. Anyway, just press it in far enough to let the plate slide down and off the slide. That ring is actually like a plunger. With the plate removed you can pull out the plunger and spring, shoot it out w/Action Blaster, and re-assemble.

    I did have 1 "SPOOOOOING" but got lucky as the plunger landed on my foot.

    Now that I KNOW, I strongly recommend this for ALL striker guns as regular maintenance.

    TACK
     
  18. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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    It's something that anyone with a striker fired weapon should do. I've had several over the years and you wont believe the crap that comes out sometimes. I did it to mine about every thousand rounds. I heard so many "that never happened to me" people come ask how to do it ..Just because they where curious (LOL!). You have to be careful sometimes so as not to have a BOING issue but it's really easy to do. And it can save a headache when you least expect it.
     
  19. Elemental

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    Tack, thanks for the tips. My XD is pretty much brand new, but I am definitely going to keep this in mind after it has seen some use.