WWII German Luger

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by mr_james, Feb 25, 2011.

  1. mr_james

    mr_james New Member

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    First off, I admittedly know nothing about firearms.

    However, what I have is an authentic, SS issue, WWII Luger in an SS holster. It's not in perfect shape, definitely dirty, with a little rust. My grandfather brought this back with him from the war (along with a Japanese officers sword - he fought in both theaters).

    It's been stored in Las Vegas for 60 years now, which means very little moisture. The rust probably came from the time he spent in the Pacific.

    Here's the rub: We also have at least one magazine for it (I don't know if there's one in it too), which just so happens to be full of bullets, almost certainly authentic also. While it is kind of cool (every bullet in this magazine is like a life that was spared), I also understand how extremely dangerous this is, which brings me to my point:

    What the heck do we do with it? I'm kind of afraid to handle, much less transport these bullets, and whom would I even take them to? Does having these original bullets, along with the SS holster, increase the value of the gun? I realize we need to check the serials to confirm that they match up, but knowing my grandfather, I imagine that they will. (He was a gambler, before and after the war, eventually settling in Las Vegas where he worked at the sands during the rat pack days - the gun was probably won in a card game). Any idea of the value, with this limited information?
     
  2. ballfan4141

    ballfan4141 New Member

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    my grandfather has one he got off of a german nazi in WWII and had it with the firing pin and everything until my scum uncle took it.
     

  3. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Have you considered getting a friend who knows something about firearms to unload it for you? That would seem like a good place to start; probably safer than trying to follow online instructions to do so.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPiWj7XyhBM&feature=related[/ame]
    This youtube vid should give you some idea of how the pistol operates. Don't point it at anything/anybody that doesn't need extra holes, JIC. I would really not want you to hurt yourself, your pets, or your pistol by trying to unload it, if you aren't comfortable with it.
     
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  4. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    Can you post pics?

    The ammo may be collectible if original WW2 issue. But German 9mm ammo from the war is not rare.

    And beware of unscrupulous folks trying to low ball you and buy it cheap.
     
  5. jpattersonnh

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    I shoot German 8x57 from the 1930's, no problems. My favorite ammo for the 8x57(7.92) Mausers is 1940's production Portuguese, German, and Turkish 1949. I have a boat load of 1940's Brit MKVII that is great too. Nothing wrong w/ old ammo. I use to shoot 1920's Bulgarian and 1938 Nazi headstamped 8x56r in my M95 Steyr.
     
  6. canebrake

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    See that M1911A1? That was my dad's and somewhere in the Ardennes it saved his butt when he terminated with extreme prejudice, the officer that owned that P08 Luger.

    Had the product of that confrontation been reversed, this story would be told in German!

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    You know what that Luger is worth?

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  7. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    First, small arms ammunition, like the rounds in the Luger magazine, are not bombs filled with high explosives. At the moment, I just brought some ammo into the house (shopping trip today) and there are about 5000 cartridges sitting on my sofa until I go put them away.

    In the Las Vegas area, there are several gun shops and gunsmiths. Call one, explain that you have a Luger, and need someone to unload it. Most folks will help you- just do not walk in the door of the shop with pistol in your hand.

    DO keep the ammo. It may be wartime issue, more likely to be civilian ammo. There ARE places you cannot take it- in the passenger compartment of an airliner, a courtroom etc. I also cannot take a chainsaw into either.

    There are NUMEROUS different versions of Lugers. Value of ANY gun will depend on EXACT model, condition, and originality. Accessories that are correct to the weapon (mags, holsters, loading tool, etc) add to the value. IF THERE ARE CAPTURE PAPERS (military document showing sidearm was captured by your grandfather, and is his as a war trophy add greatly to value. You really need a hands-on appraisal by someone that KNOWS Lugers. NOT someone buying it- conflict of interest there.

    Or- only because I am a nice guy, I could send you $50, my Federal Firearms License, and a prepaid UPS shipping label- just unload it, box it, and drop off at UPS. Then you do not have to worry about it, and have a nice crisp $50 for your troubles. OK- $60. :D (Yes, I am only kidding- and my fellow forum members would gather to beat me black and blue if I took advantage of anyone like that. )

    RESIST the urge to "clean up" the pistol. ONCE IT IS UNLOADED, you can use a light oil and a clean cotton cloth, and rub all you want. No steel wool, no scotch-brite pads, no (shudder) sandpaper or wire brushes.
     
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  8. jpattersonnh

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    Collectable ammo is really tough. Full boxes in pristine condition are where it is at. A single round is too expensive to ship. If someone wants one for a cartridge board, figure $10.00 shipped on your dime.
     
  9. Reinhard

    Reinhard New Member Supporter

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    great story ,and realy nice guns ,the luger looks to be in very good condition
    with matching magazine it will make 1500 to 2000$
    my luger with german ammo,no story's attached though
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  10. ballfan4141

    ballfan4141 New Member

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    what would a WWII german luger be worth that was actually used in the war in good conidtion?
     
  11. NGIB

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    Whatever a collector will pay for it. This is a very serious answer as there is no price guide for special guns...
     
  12. Reinhard

    Reinhard New Member Supporter

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    depends on condition ,from $700 for a good shooter ,up to $2000 or more
    my set is a 1938 mauser luger with two matching mags and holster ,a luger collector offered me 2750$ for the set ,but the luger is an heirloom and not for sale,some Krieghoff lugers will go for a lot more than $2750
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    http://www.gundigest.com/article/lugercollectingadvice
     
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  13. Davyboy

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    Not surprisingly the best prices are paid in Europe for collectable lugers. The rare Kriegsmarine ones can bring $5000.00 plus. This example recently sold for $5600.00
     

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  14. ballfan4141

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    my idiot uncle took it when he moved into my grandparents house and sold some good WWII memoribilia and I am pissed. he could have given us a few of the pieces then took everything for himself. lol well what are you going to do when I have no power because I was not one of the kids.
     
  15. wmille01

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    I know some people would want to put it into a muesum or even sell it. Me personally I would make sure its safe to shoot and take it to the range.
     
  16. Reinhard

    Reinhard New Member Supporter

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    don't spend another second thinking about that uncle ,it's only waisted time,
    it will only get you more pissed,think positive and try to find a nice luger
    it will make you happy and forget all about that bad uncle;)
     
  17. Reinhard

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    prices are not higher in Europe and about the same as in the US ,its just the difference in currency ,that's the reason why so manny American guns are exported to Europe ,if you buy a gun for $5600 it will sell here for 5600€
    but the 5600€ is actually$ 7355,hence the reason for the great export