Would you ever do this?

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by DarinCraft, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. DarinCraft

    DarinCraft New Member

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    Lets assume you are the gun shop employee in this one.....

    I went into a local gun shop the other day and one of the guys I kind of know was wearing a compact 1911 OC. I saw it had some nice mahogany grips and asked if I could see it.

    A couple of things happened I am a little on edge about. He says, "Sure." He draws the weapon and hands it to me with the muzzle pointed straight at my junk. I stepped off and took the gun just as another shop employee who was behind me and drew my attention to him. With my back to the owner of the gun, I checked the chamber, but there was NO WAY he could have seen me. I saw the mag was loaded but the chamber was clear.

    I drew the gun up and he told me, "Pull the trigger I just bought (some whiz bang) trigger." So I did knowing it was clear. Just about the time the sear released he screams "bang!" and falls over laughing.

    I have some major problems with this.

    1. Open carry unloaded.
    2. Handing a gun to someone without checking it is clear
    3. telling someone to pull the trigger on a gun that you did not check and did not see the other person check.
    4. Handing someone a gun with a loaded mag.
    5. Pointing the gun at my DAMN JUNK.
    6. Making a joke out of what could have been a really bad situation.

    Okay would any of you done the same thing he did? Keep in mind I know this guy, but it is a customer dealer relationship.
     
  2. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    God, this is almost word-for-word to another post from a few weeks ago....?
     

  3. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Darwin Award candidate for sure. :rolleyes:
     
  4. DarinCraft

    DarinCraft New Member

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    I know that was what was going through my head. And the main reason I posted it. To me it's a little worse only because this is a gun the guy was carrying, not one in the display and this was a gun shop not a pawn shop.

    CA357,
    he is definitely nominated.
     
  5. skullcrusher

    skullcrusher New Member

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    I musta missed that. Gotta link?
     
  6. DarinCraft

    DarinCraft New Member

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  7. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    Yeah, let me just thumb through hundreds of posts and find that for ya.
     
  8. lonyaeger

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  9. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    Sounds like another DA with poor fun store etiquette.

    Glad your junk is OK.
     
  10. Car54

    Car54 New Member

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    I would hazard a guess that you felt very uncomfortable as he handed you the weapon. Knowing you were a LEO, I'm sure you felt like telling him what he was doing was wrong but there was that business/client relationship involved. Not to be a Monday morning QB, trying not to hurt his feelings, I would have said in a joking tone "hey, take the mag out and open the slide, make sure it's not loaded". Saying it that way wouldn't put the employee on edge.

    Now saying that, after what happened I would have told him privately that anytime he hands a weapon to someone, take the mag out and open the slide, accidents do happen. And as a final note, let him know that others have been sent to the hospital for less reasons than yelling "bang"

    How long has this employee been at the shop? Would it harm anything to chat with the owner?
     
  11. DarinCraft

    DarinCraft New Member

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    You're right there are so many times in life you think of what you want to say, but you shrug it off and never do. When in all actuality, you really should.

    I thought of all kinds of things I wanted to say, but I didn't. I was looked at as well I knew what to do to keep me from getting hurt and paid no attention to what if it happens again to someone else.

    I need to go back and at least talk to the guy about it. Tell him the obvious things and then make him think of what the legal eagles would do if there was an AD in the shop, let alone if someone got hurt/killed.
     
  12. Desperado-OPs

    Desperado-OPs New Member

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    That is a bizarre incident for sure. You would think that a gun store employee would have the sense to pull the mag out, and lock the slide to the rear before handing it safely to you by the grip not the muzzle.
     
  13. Dizzll

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    Damn, that sounds categorically wrong lol... I understand you want to keep a good relationship with these guys but that's basic disregard for your safety, and that's enough I would say something. If he wants to go home and "play bang" with himself go ahead, but not with me is what I'd be thinking...
     
  14. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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    "Could you hand the weapon to me properly, please!"
    "Is this the first time you've carried a firearm?"
    "Let's see what happens when I rack the slide?"
    "Not the smartest wise ass in the store are you?"

    I always think of 'em about a day later, after my temper eases a little. :D
     
  15. DarinCraft

    DarinCraft New Member

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    Those are great. I will have to remember them for later
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2010
  16. hunter Joe

    hunter Joe New Member

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    Rule Number One, treat every firearm as it were loaded.

    IMHO it is your job to ask that the action is open before accepting any firearm. If the action is not open, never ever take the hand-off.

    You can not be shot or shoot anyone with the action open. Beside completely dismantling a firearm, having the action open makes the firearm as safe as it can get.
     
  17. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    When nothing comes immediately to mind, remember this:

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  18. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Not cool, and i would've tried to find some way to convey that to him without being a jerk. I'm not sure i could've avoided being a bit of a jerk just after having a pistol pointed at my privates.

    I'm thinking of getting a Tshirt that says "please don't point that at me, i am crazy" with the name of a state mental facility on the back for the next time i go to the gun shop (haven't had problems there myself, yet).
     
  19. SigGambler

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    Personally I would never ask to see someone's firearm that was holstered (I know you LEO and your trained to take firearms from people ). As soon as a person pulls that gun out from ther holster and odds are it is loaded is where a whole host of bad things can happen and you witnessed, fortunatly no one got hurt. The rage I shoot at has a rule that if you have a holstered pistol for personal protection, it must remain holstered at all times and can not be used on the range, the exception to the rule is when there is training going on, such as drawing from concealment class. This just a personal opinion not the law.
     
  20. DarinCraft

    DarinCraft New Member

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    I would buy that shirt in a heartbeat, but it would have to have the picture that CA357 posted on the back. ROTFLMAO