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Having a debate a work about 6 rounds not being enough.

I say, if you need more than 6 rounds, you have bigger problems than a .357 with a speed loader can help you with.

The other guys say 11 rounds is better than 6.

Thoughts?
 

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Sure I would. Would carry whatever I could shoot well. Depends on the situation (the old METT-T standby). That debate will go on forever. :D
 

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Revolver? He!! yes. For CC a S&W M-65 3" .357. For colder conditions or open carry a S&W M-657 4" .41 mag. One shot, one stop. You can ding 'em with a 9 or stop 'em with a good wheelie round.
 

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I may carry a wheelgun. If the @#*^[email protected] temperature ever gets high enough (without rain) for me to get to the range. I only have access to an outdoor range, and I have a 65-5 that I really would like to try out.

Where's that darn global warming when you need it?
 

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oh my lord...

..that got the ole-ball on the move,yes i would and do carry a revolver
friend it started many moon ago,i prefer the famous 38cal,4inch barrel
for protection,thanks:D
 

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I think a small revolver is good as a backup and/or hideaway gun. You can stash it away somewhere for as long as you like, and don't have to worry about magazine springs wearing out. It'll always be ready to fire.

However, for a primary weapon in a "SHTF" situation, I'll take a good semi-auto every time, preferably a 1911 .45.
 

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I prefer something with a lower profile.
Cylinder bulge is what turned me off for hip carry...However, on occasion, will carry a k-frame in a shoulder rig....As far as the # of shots vs an autoloader; not a hi-priority in my mind....:)
 

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I often carry a S&W model 36 (5) shot 38 cal. revolver in my coat pocket. I have been told that the average number of shots fired during an altercation is 3.

If I use the 38, "and I hope to God I never do use it" I'm confident enough that 1 shot will do the trick. I still carry 2 speed loaders though :D
 

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Bernie Goetz carried a Model 36 and it saved him from being mugged (or worse) by four goblins. :D
 

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I carry a Smith J-Frame .38 on the occasions where I really don't want anyone to know I have a gun.

This isn't the gun I would carry if I knew I were getting into a gunfight, but it's better than nothing...
 

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I often carry a S&W model 36 (5) shot 38 cal. revolver in my coat pocket. I have been told that the average number of shots fired during an altercation is 3.

If I use the 38, "and I hope to God I never do use it" I'm confident enough that 1 shot will do the trick. I still carry 2 speed loaders though.
Small revolvers are OK as a backup gun, Tom.

However, don't bet the lives of you and your loved ones on things like average number of shots fired and hopes of a "one shot stop".

With a .38, you have about a 50% chance of a one shot stop on a perp.

You're also assuming that there will be only one attacker. If there are multiple armed assailants, that average of three is out the window. Keep carrying those speedloaders! :)
 

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Defender, you seem to be convinced that revolvers are not serious defensive weapons. The primary factor in stopping an attacker is shot placement, not number of shots fired. I have been a cop for 24 years and I have never heard of anyone getting killed because they ran out of ammo. There is a different mind set to the person who carries a revolver (or a single stack pistol for that matter). Accuracy. Only hits count. Only good hits count for much. You can't miss fast enough to win a gun fight. Shooting at a target does no good at all. Shooting the target center of mass with a good bullet at a decent velocity does count. I would not feel out gunned with a good 6 shot .357 or .41 mag and three speed loaders. I hit you once, center of mass, you go down, for good. I shoot with a guy in IPSC that has one crippled hand. He shoots a 625 with moon clips and will out shoot about half the field. Fast is fine but accurate is final.
Autos are fine (I carry one every day). Revolvers are fine. I carried a 4" Smith 657 .41 mag every day for 10 years. Now if you want to get into an argument over the worth of 2 shot derringers, I'll go there. I won't even own one of those. That is OLD school.
 

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Defender, you seem to be convinced that revolvers are not serious defensive weapons. The primary factor in stopping an attacker is shot placement, not number of shots fired. I have been a cop for 24 years and I have never heard of anyone getting killed because they ran out of ammo. There is a different mind set to the person who carries a revolver (or a single stack pistol for that matter). Accuracy. Only hits count. Only good hits count for much. You can't miss fast enough to win a gun fight. Shooting at a target does no good at all. Shooting the target center of mass with a good bullet at a decent velocity does count. I would not feel out gunned with a good 6 shot .357 or .41 mag and three speed loaders. I hit you once, center of mass, you go down, for good. I shoot with a guy in IPSC that has one crippled hand. He shoots a 625 with moon clips and will out shoot about half the field. Fast is fine but accurate is final.
Autos are fine (I carry one every day). Revolvers are fine. I carried a 4" Smith 657 .41 mag every day for 10 years. Now if you want to get into an argument over the worth of 2 shot derringers, I'll go there. I won't even own one of those. That is OLD school.
Here we go again.

You guys just can't let it go, can you? I was casually talking in a friendly manner to Tom, not arguing with anybody--but the revolver apologists get all defensive like you're bad-mouthing their wives, if you point out the shortcomings of revolvers as a primary weapon in police, military and private self-defense situations.

I don't care how long you've been a police officer. Hundreds of police departments around the country have converted to semi-autos in recent years, including virtually all the major cities.

There's a reason for that--because MANY street and special ops officers with revolvers were quite simply being out-gunned by perps with semi-auto weapons. Out-gunned officers frequently end up as DEAD officers. Numerous in-depth departmental investigations fully supported the finding that they were being out-gunned.

The conversion to semi-autos has been received with overwhelming approval by the vast majority of street and special ops officers. They now feel like they are on more even footing with the criminals, whereas when they were only allowed to carry revolvers, they were frequently out-gunned.

Now for the peace of this board, let's agree to disagree and move on. You're not going to convince me and I'm not going to convince you--and that's why I was minding my own business talking to Tom.

Have a nice day and God Bless! :)
 

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I would not, I don't like wheel guns nor do I feel comfortable with one.
I have a small .38 that I shoot every now and then, not at all accurate
with it, could be the gun, could be me...
 

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Here we go again.

You guys just can't let it go, can you? I was casually talking in a friendly manner to Tom, not arguing with anybody--but the revolver apologists get all defensive like you're bad-mouthing their wives, if you point out the shortcomings of revolvers as a primary weapon in police, military and private self-defense situations.

I don't care how long you've been a police officer. Hundreds of police departments around the country have converted to semi-autos in recent years, including virtually all the major cities.

There's a reason for that--because MANY street and special ops officers with revolvers were quite simply being out-gunned by perps with semi-auto weapons. Out-gunned officers frequently end up as DEAD officers. Numerous in-depth departmental investigations fully supported the finding that they were being out-gunned.

The conversion to semi-autos has been received with overwhelming approval by the vast majority of street and special ops officers. They now feel like they are on more even footing with the criminals, whereas when they were only allowed to carry revolvers, they were frequently out-gunned.

Now for the peace of this board, let's agree to disagree and move on. You're not going to convince me and I'm not going to convince you--and that's why I was minding my own business talking to Tom.

Have a nice day and God Bless! :)
I didn't take offense to anything you said Defender. :) I thought they were good points. Actually, I'm new to CCW so I like opinions. Everybody has one you know :D

The most important thing I have learned to date about CCW is the strong preferance people have on their own and their family's personal defense. I'm still learning my preferance. Thats why I ordered my PX4-Storm 45 ACP :)

Robocop10mm, your opinions are great too so thanks man.

Peace
Tom
 
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