Would this be possible?

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by Rubi22, Aug 16, 2008.

  1. Rubi22

    Rubi22 New Member

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    Now, go easy on me. Seriously.

    Here's my situation, I'm getting a shotgun. It'll sit at home 95% of the time (home protection). But, there's definitely a possibility that I'll have the chance to go hunting or skeet/clay/trap shooting, and I've got a feeling that I'd really enjoy it. Is there any way I can get a shotgun (12g) that I'll feel comfortable with sitting by my bed that I could get by with in the field?

    Oh, and for the record, I know that any shotgun can be used in an unfortunate situation, but I'm looking for something that wouldn't feel like I'm carrying around rocket launcher when clearing rooms.

    Additional info:
    -I'd prefer 12 guage.
    -My local (indoor) range only allows slugs. This is a different place than the skeet range I referred to earlier.
    -Multiple barrels is definitely an option, if that has anything to do with my situation.
    -I'm a total noob and this thread may be a total joke.

    Thanks! :D
     
  2. Rubi22

    Rubi22 New Member

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    Oh, and I'm left handed, and Mossberg's safeties feel very comfortable.
     

  3. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    I don't think your thread idea is a joke. It's a fair question.

    Since you are going with a 90%-95% home weapon, with a possibility of going skeet or trap shooting, I would suggest a Remington 870 or Remington 1100.

    The 870 is a pump platform and the 1100 is a semi auto.

    This is a weapon platform that has a ton of possibilities in both the factory platform, and the civilian aftermarket.

    Now, this is not going to be a weapon that is going to get you a gold medal, or win a shooting club weekend championship in trap - but for home defense, and the possibilities of taking it hunting would be fine in this platform.

    The weapon is reliable. It's not super expensive and there are parts for it all over the country.

    Now, it's not the best choice for either application, but for a choice that can fill both categories, I think this would fit the bill.

    Give them a look and see what you think.

    JD

    EDIT: I just noticed the left handed part. Both models come in a left handed package, but don't have as many factory options as the RH models.
     
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  4. Rubi22

    Rubi22 New Member

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    Any reason you chose Remington over Mossbergs? From what I've seen at gun shows and shops, Mossbergs seem to have a better aftermarket for the tactical shotgun.

    On another note, I just thought: Would it be plausible to buy a field gun, then outfit it with a 18" (or so) barrel, and switch back anytime I plan to make a trip out to shoot?
     
  5. Righteous

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    if mossbergs top tang safety feels better to you then go for it. There as good as a remington any day, the maverick version of the mossbergs are not however. You can buy 18" home defense barrels for both brands and then swap out when you go to the range. One thing to remember tho is some of Mossberg 500 models have ported barrels and you cant shoots slugs thru them so keep that in mind as well.
     
  6. Rubi22

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    Right, I read up on that one. Rifled barrels=non-rifled slugs, and vice versa, correct? Something like that. (Don't worry, when it comes down to it, I'll be much more confident in my assumptions).
     
  7. cpttango30

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    The top two selling shotguns are the Remington 870 and the Mossberg 500.

    Either will get you where you want to be. A simple extra barrel in the safe is all you will need to switch from a HD shotgun to a field gun. Stock doesn't matter as you can have either wood or synthetic.

    The nice thing about both the 870 and 500 are the avalibilty of aftermarket barrels and other gadgets.

    If you want a deer hunting shotgun too just add a rifled slug barrel with a scope mount and bang you got a deadly accurate slug slinger as well.....

    Remington 870 Barrels

    Mossberg 500 Barrels
     
  8. G21.45

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    :confused: Did you say: self-defense, trap, and skeet?

    Listen, if I wanted to really really annoy the guys I shoot trap with all I got 'a do is show up with a semiautomatic shotgun. The guy standing to my right - You know, the person with the $20,000.00 over/under Krieghoff shotgun - will positively want to kill you the moment you start ejecting spent shells toward his precious baby! :eek:

    If this is something that you really want to do, and you do NOT intend to spend big money on an expensive receiver with a matched set of barrels, then get a pump shotgun. This way you can turn the ejection port toward the ground and/or pop the spent hull into your hand rather than automatically flinging spent hulls towards someone else on the line.

    Self-defense (or skeet) is usually a cylinder or an improved cylinder bore and a short 18.5" to 24" barrel. Trap on the other hand is full choke and a 28" to 30" barrel. It's not uncommon for people like this to have one receiver and a set, or two, of different barrels.

    Not anymore, but I used to keep three different receivers in two different gauges and several sets of barrels - Something for every occasion! Nowadays, I'm down to one 12 gauge receiver and 3 barrels.

    There is a lot of carryover value between wing shooting with a shotgun, and point shooting with a pistol. I've always been very good at point shooting; probably because of all the practice I got wing shooting twice a week with the boys! ;)
     
  9. JWIII

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    I think you answered your own question. Go with the Mossberg 500. I have one; works great for me.

    Also, fieild stripping is rather simple.

    Anyway,whatever you decide besure to repost and let us know what you got and how you like it.
     
  10. Rubi22

    Rubi22 New Member

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    Yep, I did say that. Keep in mind I'm not as experienced as 99% of you. I'm just a guy looking to get into shotguns and wondering /if/how I can get opposite ends of the spectrum into the same package.

    As far as the range/field etiquette, are O/U and S/S's really the only thing you'll see there? Are the pump and semi guys going to catch that much slack? I've never been to shoot skeet or trap or clays, so I'm foreign to the subject.

    To JWIII: I've been researching all night, and if at all possible, I'm looking at getting the 500 and an extra (field) barrel.

    Now, onto chokes: Looks like the general consensus is to keep some form of buckshot in a home defense shotgun, so the short barrel will be suited for that. In addition, the long barrel would need to be outfitted with a choke for sport shooting (I'm assuming birdshot?). Well, remember from my first post, my range only allows slugs. Any way I can get the best of both worlds (one short barrel that shoots buckshot and one long barrel that shoots birdshot and slugs?).

    Thanks
     
  11. JWIII

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    You do not need another barrel to fire birdshot or slugs. I have shot 00 Buck, 000 Buck, Birdshot, and Slugs through my 500. Make sure the slugs are "Rifled Slugs." If accuracy is the issue, the slugs were pretty accurate at 50yrds.


    Now, I too have not been clay, pigeon, ect shooting, so I couldn't tell what you need there.
     
  12. Rubi22

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    Thanks. Crazy, I just noticed you're from the Tampa Bay area. Small world? The range I've been talking about is the Shoot Straight off of 301 (and I-4). That's where I go to shoot indoor (slugs only). Any knowledge of skeet ranges around here, although you have never been? I know there's one out in Wesley Chapel/Zephyrhills area...
     
  13. JWIII

    JWIII New Member

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    Try this... LINK

    I mainly shoot at the Dade City range "outdoor," and Shooting Sports "Tampa/Indoor." Firing Line "N.P.R./Indoor" is right down the street from me, but 5.56/.223 is not allowed yet.

    That sucks you can't use buck at Straight Shoot; I geuss they don't want to have to pick up the wadding?

    Is this going to be your 1st firearms purchase?
     
  14. Rubi22

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    ^^^Yes, it was my first firearm purchase. But I've been a member there shooting all sorts of firearms (renting pistols and borrowing employees shotguns).

    Anyway, I just bought a Mossberg 500 12g tactical pump action with an 18.5" barrel for $260. I plan on getting a long barrel to switch to whenever the time comes and the wallet allows.

    I'm picking it up Thursday. Thanks everybody for your help!

    I'll post up some pics whenever I get it...

    Thanks again. :)
     
  15. G21.45

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    Depends on two things: (1) The club where you are shooting; and, (2) who else is on the line with you. If you've got guys who are competing with expensive shotguns, you can expect to hear about that semiautomatic shotgun you're using. I've seen many an auto shooter moved to the end of the line or asked to switch places with someone who objected to having to stand on the right-hand side of an auto shotgun.

    Trapshooting at my old hunting club? No, it was a potpourri; and nobody cared what you used. Trapshooting at any one of several different trap ranges I know? Yes, expect someone to say something to you. It's not, so much, the pump shotgun that's a problem - A pump can be controlled and is simply considered to be bourgeois. It's the semiauto shotgun that's sure to raise an objection, especially if there are other much more expensive guns on the line.

    A short barrel with a more open choke = skeet shooting and self-defense. A long barrel with a much tighter choke = trapshooting (and self-defense). A pump action shotgun barreled with a short improved cylinder choke, (or a set of screw-ins) and a second longer full choke barrel sounds about right for what you are considering.

    Anyway I wouldn't encourage you to make this decision based on what you MIGHT do on a trap or skeet range. Wingshooting is not a sport that everybody regularly pursues. Over the years I've brought a lot of new shooters to the range with me. Most don't stick around for too long.

    Good wingshooting (20 + birds out of 25) takes time, effort, and lots of practice to learn. You need to make a commitment and have the determination to succeed along with a high tolerance for repeated public failure. Private practice with hand-thrown birds is only going to take you so far. The auto-throwing machines throw much faster (and less predictably) than anything you can throw by hand.

    I've known far more shooters who didn't stay with wingshooting than those who did. On the other hand, I've shot next to men who were in their late 70's and 80's; they cleanly beat me by 2 or 3 birds and, occasionally shot perfect scores! So, once you learn how to do it the technique tends to stay with you.

    As far as your present club goes? It's obviously not set up for either trap or skeet shooting. Use the link above, or start, HERE if you want to find a wingshooting facility near you.
     
  16. Rubi22

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    Well, everybody, here it is. Brand spankin' Mossberg 500 12g.

    Thanks everybody for their help, I'm 100% happy with my purchase.

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  17. JWIII

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    Sweet you got it... Did it also come with the pistol grip?

    Next, we'll see you over in the AR-15 threads huh? LOL
     
  18. Rubi22

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    Why, yes. Yes it did. :D

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    Who knows, but you'll definitely see me asking those obvious newb questions in the pistol forum once I turn 21, lol.
     
  19. Rubi22

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    Wow, in the above pic it almost looks like the magazine tube is bent, but trust me, it's just the pillow case that it's laid on.