I would like to caution those that might jump into the new gun and accessories "penny auction" that has just come on line on a new website. I found out by an "ALERT EMAIL" sent to me by a well known discount gun sales site. Based on the email I went to check it out, signed up and looked it over. That is when I discovered it was a "penny auction" set up. Just like "bidfan" was. Most know how that went. (down the drain and many lost money) In my OWN opinion, I feel these are rip off auction sites. They make you feel you can win something for pennies on the dollar. But, IF YOU BUY IN, THE ONLY WAY TO GET YOUR MONEY BACK IS TO PUT MORE MONEY IN TO KEEP BIDDING TO WIN!!! OR BUY SOMETHING. OTHERWISE KISS YOU MONEY GOOD BY. I assume most people here on Firearmstalk are mature level headed folks and they can make their own choices. I just wanted to caution everyone on what one may be getting into. I have mentioned no names of the dealer or auction site. You may already know. My apology if I have stepped on some toe's but I personally know people that got taken in penny auctions.