Would appreciate some advice please.

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by grimbriar, Oct 24, 2009.

  1. grimbriar

    grimbriar New Member

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    Hi there guys,
    after much thought i have decided to obtain a 1911 but due to not knowing this type of gun very well i have some questions that would help me make a much informed purchase.

    I have a H&K 2000 ,its primary purpose is for defence.I have throughout the years enjoyed this brand due to its reliability .
    Reliability is very important to myself ,another reason i enjoyed this pistol is that it sat very well in my hand( Unfortunately alot of guns just feel "bulky" to me =/ ).

    Recently whilst looking inside my local gun shop i picked up and handled a 1911......i have never felt such a sense of perfection when i was handling it.

    That was an easy decision to make about the next type of handgun to get.

    So the question i have is having loved my H&K for its reliabilty, which 1911 type has the reliability that one could put there trust in to guard their life?
    As i mentioned before this will be my carry gun,price i expect to pay up to say $950.(I am currently looking into Colt gov't)

    Second question , i reload my own ammo(primarily 9mm) so i was wondering can one use small pistol primers for .45? (i understand that the .45 requires large pistol primers but am hoping one could get away with using small primers as i have some in abundance)

    I thank you for your time reading my questions and appreciate any help given.
     
  2. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    I can only speak to my experience but here goes;

    I own two Colt 1911s.

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    ........^ My O7000D 3" Defender

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    ........^ My O7000D 3" Defender before personalizing

    I love these two guns and would trust my life to both.

    With my experience, the steel Government is a great shooter but too heavy for carry.

    The Defender is a perfect carry piece but a tad small for my hands.

    If I had it to do over again, and may still do it to complete my Colt ownership, I would get the Light Weight Combat Commander.

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  3. Don Davis

    Don Davis New Member

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    +1 canebreak - very very nice guns.

    I own 2 .45 auto's currently and while I like them both, the Kimber is by far the highest quality 1911 I've ever owned. I've found it reliable and I believe it's a beautil gun (but I'm a little fickle, I like lots of them :D )



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    I used to reload, but not any more so I can't answer your loading question, but someone on here can I'm sure.
     
  4. Highpower

    Highpower New Member

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    Well, there you go! Question answered. ;)
     
  5. ktmboyz

    ktmboyz New Member

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    I'll have to toss in another Kimiber vote
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  6. ccr203

    ccr203 New Member

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    I gotta toss in another vote for colt.

    My two.


    My Defender and M1991 A1.:D
     

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  7. grimbriar

    grimbriar New Member

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    Thank you for the replies,i have been reading on both the Colt and Kimber,both look to be great choices.Now finding them is the issue ,looked around several gun shops around the vicinity however i had no luck.
     
  8. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    For a carry 1911, hard to top the original - a Colt Commander:

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  9. grimbriar

    grimbriar New Member

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    I am no singer nor is the type of song i listen to BUT i feel like singing [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-DcNPFWhbk]YouTube - The Pointer Sisters - I'm So Excited[/ame] !!!!

    Today my lovey and i went to another gunstore just to browse and make a day of it(60 miles away) an lo and behold i found a SS Gold Cup !!!!!!!!

    After a quick down payment(will pick it up in 2 weeks) and then coming across large pistol primers i am dancing around like yobbo!!! ::Jumps up and clicks heels::

    Thank you guys for giving advice,it made me feel i made the right decision for myself :D
     
  10. BrassMonkey

    BrassMonkey New Member Supporter

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    Don't put too much faith in getting a 1911 that runs 100% out of the box. I have owned three that all required tweaking to function properly. Even then I would never fully trust one as a defensive pistol when so many better options exist today.

    Not knocking the platform as I enjoy shooting them but I have always regarded them as a range toy. Colt, Wilson Combat, Springfield Armory are all good brands to look into. If somebody gave me a free Kimber I'd sell it to my worst enemy the same day. YMMV
     
  11. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    Kimber really shouldn't be too much of a problem to find right now; Colt might be another story.
     
  12. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    I hear a lot of stories about 1911's not running well out of the box.

    I have never experienced this phenomenon.

    Now, my first 1911 was the cheap Kimber, the custom target II.

    I had my gunsmith receive the pistol and tune the trigger before I took delivery. He also got me 2 Wilson 47D mags. It ran like a champ from day one and I have never had a problem.

    I got two more Kimbers' - A Raptor II and their .22LR 1911 variant.

    The .22 has a problem with the second round coming out of the mag. It's the magazine. I have another mag I purchased after market and it runs fine. Boo on Kimber for giving me a weak magazine.

    I have three Nighthawks. Nighthawk will sell you as many magazines as you want, that they approve for their pistols.

    I took my GRP thru Valhalla's indoor pistol course. I was required to empty a full magazine as fast as I could ( under 2 seconds for 8 rounds ) into targets.

    The weapon performed flawlessly and this was with ammo that has never been shot by the weapon before.

    The 1911, in my mind, has a natural pointability and a reliability that I find to be perfect in design, fit and function.

    I hope you find one that suits your needs.

    JD
     
  13. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    I've probably owned 2 dozen different 1911s in the past several years from Rock Island, Kimber, Springfield, Para Ordnance, Colt, Dan Wesson, and S&W. I have yet to own one that didn't operate as it should - same as JD. Now, I never use cheap mags and I never use factory mags either.

    I have a couple dozen Wilsons and Chip McCormicks that I use in all of mine without a glitch...
     
  14. grimbriar

    grimbriar New Member

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    I will post pics as soon as i take my baby home!!!!
     
  15. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Active Member

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    In the 1st place, if I have a new firearm-any firearm, and it repeatedly malfunctions, it goes straight back to the factory. I don't tweak them unless the gun was acquired used and thus with no factory warranty. In the second place, I've honestly never gotten ahold of any new quality 1911s that was prone to malfunction out of box. You're certainly welcome to your opinion BUT you need to clarify it AS YOUR OPINION when you state there's "better options out there for defense".





     
  16. Don Davis

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  17. BrassMonkey

    BrassMonkey New Member Supporter

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    Not my opinion my experience. I shoot IDPA and 1911's are by far the most common platform to have failures on course. I'm not talking about cheap RIAs here but everything from high dollar Nighthawks and Les Baers to box stock Colts.

    As far as there being better options out there for a defensive pistol there are. Countless makers offer pistols with higher capacity, lower weight and designs that better lend themselves to concealed carry. The only opinion I have here is that the only reason people still cling to this platform is out of nostalgia. Sure they are great guns to shoot with when they run and I'm willing to admit I shoot my Colt Series 70 better than any other pistol I have ever owned. I don't however fully trust it when the chips are down. In the end its an obsolete design like every other weapon that it shared a battle field with that has since been replaced at least twice now.

    Further more no quality gun should have to be sent back to the factory for repair when purchased new and properly taken care of barring ammo failures (KBs and such).
     
  18. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    Before I took the 1911 plunge, I would read stuff like this and cringe. I have 4 now and have owned well over a dozen different 1911 models in the past few years. Currently I have a Kimber, Colt, and 2 Springers and all of them are reliable. The only one I owned that was the least bit picky was a Dan Wesson Pointman that really didn't like to be dirty and was extremely tight. After I got 500 or so rounds thru it, it settled in and became boringly reliable.

    I don't doubt BM's experience but I can tell you from my experience that most 1911s run just fine out of the box. Now I caveat that except for my Colt I shoot nothing but the FMJ ammo this platform was designed for and I do not use cheap and/or factory mags.

    I've put probably 5000 rounds thru my 1st Gen Kimber Gold Match in the past 2 years and it has never malfunctioned. This gun was 10 years old when I got it so I have no idea what the total round count is. This is my main competition gun and gets fired rapidly and a lot of rounds in each session...
     
  19. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Bullshi'ite. Plain and simple. I know several Kimber, Baer and Nighthawk owners and I have yet to meet someone and have them tell me the weapon has failed them. I don't know of a single FTF in the group of 8 Nighthawks' that shoot near me. My three have been flawless.

    Show some real pictures of these failures. Show the range cards that indicate the shooter could not continue because the weapon failed.

    Or retract the statement/change it to your opinion and not a known fact.

    JD
     
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