World War 1 Artillery Shell Relic

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by hogrider, Dec 3, 2010.

  1. hogrider

    hogrider New Member

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    Would this be the place or is there another forum somewhere else to see if someone can identify a World War 1 artillery shell. I know this way out of the realm of small guns.. I'm just looking for a place to drop some poor pictures and some rough measurements that might help to identify this relic.
     
  2. hogrider

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    I assume this is artillery. It is only approx. 6.6 inches in overall length. It has a bullet diameter of 3.82 x 1.43. So I think it is small caliber artillery but I'm just guessing.
     

  3. hogrider

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    It has etched on it...Verdunn...November 11 1918 on one side. On the other is....Vosges, St. Mihiel, Argonne, Verdunn Aug 16 1918 to Nov 16 1918. I have these poor quality picture also.
     

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  4. TheOldMan

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    A very basic google search turned up that it was probably a french artillery shell like the ones used in the early 1900's in the battle of Verdunn, France.
     
  5. hogrider

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    The base of the shell brass has....37-85 PDPs 243 9.16 and then a mark that looks like and exploding bomb. The cap has.....L358 16
     
  6. hogrider

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    Thanks very much. I didn't even know what to do a search on.
     
  7. hogrider

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    Any idea as to a value? Some collector might be interest I would think. Just being a 1918 relic would give it some value surely. But I have no idea about such a thing.
     
  8. dog2000tj

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    If that is indeed a French artillery shell be very, very careful ..... as it is probably unfired! :p


    j/k - pretty cool piece of history
     
  9. hogrider

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    It's primer is gone and the fuse has been leaded in(or at least that's what it looks like). Thanks though.
     
  10. ofitg

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    Yep, looks like the "plain vanilla" WW1 37mm round. Can you unscrew the nose fuze and verify that it is empty?

    It might be French manufacture, or U.S. manufacture. An expert could tell from the markings on the base, but I'm not an expert.

    I think these rounds usually sell in the $50-$100 range.

    EDIT - Evidently this particular shell was French manufacture - here's a link -

    http://www.specialistauctions.com/auctiondetails.php?id=1143627
     
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  11. hogrider

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    Yes I have unscrewed the fuse and it shows burned marks and tooth pick goes in about 3/4 inch until it the steel or lead plug.
     
  12. ofitg

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    If somebody went to the trouble of removing the primer, then I would say you are correct - they probably filled the projectile cavity with molten lead to make sure it would remain "inert".

    It is my understanding that this was a popular round about 100 years ago. The U.S. military had these guns mounted on ships, and the Army used them in the field.... if I'm not mistaken, they caused a lot of the carnage at Wounded Knee.
     
  13. hogrider

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    ofitg.....I would say you nail it. This one is in much better condition as far as the fuse but that looks just like it. Somebody went to a lot of trouble etching the other words and dates on it. I guess hoping it would be worth a lot more in the future.
     
  14. Highpower

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    And here I am thinking I was the only one to collect weird stuff. :p

    It's a little harder to move around the 105 and 155 rounds though... :D
     
  15. Davyboy

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    Its a French WW1 37mm HE Shell
     
  16. hogrider

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    Thanks everyone. I appreciate all the responses. This was a item I found going thru my grandfather "junk" years ago and never found out what it was until now. Thanks again.
     
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  17. CA357

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    There's some history there. It's value will be sentimental, not financial. Especially since it was your Grandfathers.

    On the other hand, I have some black powder... ;)
     
  18. hogrider

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    Yes.....I will not be selling it. I was just curious as to value. It means for than money can buy to me.
     
  19. doctherock

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    hell I'll give you 50 for it.