Wood Grain Not Coming Through in Stain Process

Discussion in 'Engraving & Refinishing' started by ARnoob, Jul 21, 2010.

  1. ARnoob

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    I was using Minwax Sedona Red stain on my Bulgy AK handguards. I've only applied one coat so far. It looks great, except for the lower HG. The wood grain doesn't show through the stain very well, and I wonder what the best way to deal with this is.

    I was thinking about waiting to see what it looks like tomorrow, and then sanding it and redoing the stain, but I'm not sure if this would work. All the wood furniture was bleached before I stained it (not sure if that matters). I then thought about adding Tung oil to the stained wood. I also thought about just adding the shellac that I planned to use as a sealant anyway. Would that help? What suggestions do you guys have?

    Thanks!
     
  2. stalkingbear

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    It sounds to me that the stain is on too heavy on the lower handguard. Try using 0000 steel wool on it before stripping it down again.
     

  3. willfully armed

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    beat me to it. sand, and try wiping the stain off 15 secs after application. Repeat until desired color is achieved.
     
  4. ARnoob

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    Thanks. Should I use a stripping agent on it and just start over or simply use the steel wool to remove the excess stain?
     
  5. stalkingbear

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    Just use the steel wool to remove the excess.
     
  6. ARnoob

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    Cool. Thanks Bear!
     
  7. TheOldMan

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    Post some pictures if you would plz...
     
  8. Rick1967

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    I am believe that if you take a rag that is damp with mineral spirits, you will be able to wipe off the extra stain. I have done this with wood work that had dried for a long time.
     
  9. cpttango30

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    Thinking that these are select grade walnut and just cheap wood.

    I would use a wood conditioner before applying stain again. A Conditioner helps the wood take stain more evenly.

    I would sand down then condition wood then stain as bear said....
     
  10. ARnoob

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    Who makes a good wood conditioner? Thanks.
     
  11. ARnoob

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    Pics coming soon...
     
  12. TheOldMan

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    You should be able to pick up a good conditioner from any store that carries wood care products i.e.: Homedepot or Lowes..
     
  13. ARnoob

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    Here are the pics. I like how it turned out.
     

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  14. ARnoob

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    Here are some pics of the Colonial Maple (1st three pics) and American Cherry wood sets I'm working on.
     

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  15. stalkingbear

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    They look NICE! So I take it our advise was of some help?
     
  16. ARnoob

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    Thanks. And sorry about that. You guys helped a lot. Thank you(s)! :D
     
  17. 50of4064

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    there are two basic types of wood conditioner, Mineral spirit types and water based types. If you use a water based conditioner it will raise the grain on most woods and a 0000 steel wool pass will take it off. I use a 25% shellac to 75% mineral spirits and let it dry for a day or two, sand it with 600 wet/dry and mineral spirits. wipe it down and let it dry, then apply the stain, wipe it on and rub it out right away if it is too opaque/ or thin it out with mineral spirits and adjust tints to reach desired tint/ darkness. Just remember you can always sand if out and start over. Experiment and have fun with it.

    Nice photos, are you liking it as much as we are? nice job
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2010
  18. ARnoob

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    Thank you for your help. I really like the way it turned out.
     
  19. ARnoob

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    Thanks! I enjoy refinishing and seeing the end result.