Woman Found Murdered 2 Days After 911 Call

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by alsaqr, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. alsaqr

    alsaqr Well-Known Member Supporter

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    This lady was found dead two days after calling 911 and reporting that her husband was attacking her. Police responded, requested a call back that went to voice mail, checked w/neighbors and left the scene. A fine job by the Dallas PD.

     
  2. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    and yet people still think the police are a better protection option than a firearm.
     

  3. cvia

    cvia New Member

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    Wow.... Wtf. So the cops just knocked and then left without getting to the bottom of it?!
     
  4. KalashnikovJosh

    KalashnikovJosh New Member

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    The police have no legal responsibility to provide protection to any individual citizen.
    This has been discussed here before,I believe,and if anyone makes me have to go find the relevant court cases making a post demanding that I prove it,I'll scream bloody murder.I swear I will.Go find it yourself.

    Anyway,I often am at a thoughtful conundrum where I wonder if the police have been found to have no legal demand to provide the protection that taxpayers believe they are paying for,isn't that misrepresentation of a service?

    If the police cannot be held legally accountable for providing defense then technically all their true job remains to be is to investigate crimes and enforce myriad and sundry laws that usually result in fines that benefit the state.

    In other words,by law- they are there to enforce and collect,not serve and protect.

    (this does not reflect on the duty records of any particular officer,nor is this meant as a "bash",this is simply me pointing out the legal facts and what I believe to be the ramifications of such)
     
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  5. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

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    Maybe they should take that stupid lettering off of the patrol cars that says "to serve and protect".
     
  6. KalashnikovJosh

    KalashnikovJosh New Member

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    What and write the truth?

    "To Enforce and Collect" might not be such a popular slogan.........
     
  7. fmj

    fmj New Member

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    Most localities they arent legally allowed to put that on the cars anymore...
     
  8. Rarity

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    They don't have them on NYPD Police cars. They have the "Courtesy, Professionalism, Respect" slogan which is a really big lie.
     
  9. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    We had a 911 call the other night. DB would not answer the door, then got upset that we kicked the door in. "I don't have to answer the door." You're right, right. You do not have to answer the door after your girlfriend calls 911. Just don't be surprised when we kick the door in to make sure she is OK. And, no. We are not paying for the door.
     
  10. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I have a feeling this is "damned if you do and damned if you don't". You're the kind of cop I'd want in my town. Thank you.
     
  11. fmj

    fmj New Member

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    proper use of no knock search IMHO!
     
  12. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    No, they did knock. There was no answer. The 911 caller's safety must be followed through..........and it was.
     
  13. KalashnikovJosh

    KalashnikovJosh New Member

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    Thats the kind of cop that doesn't care that the courts don't hold him accountable for other's safety.

    He'll do what it takes to make sure someone's safe anyway.

    Thats the difference between "law enforcement" and a peace officer.


    ;)
     
  14. fmj

    fmj New Member

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    understood....i was just commenting on the use of force against the barrier. I actually got a chuckle out of it.
     
  15. AIKIJUTSU

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    Probably the a$$hole had already killed her and left the house before the police got there.
    Kicking in the door would not have saved her.
     
  16. Vikingdad

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    It does not matter. They failed in their duty IMO. That's what it boils down to. Had they kicked the door in and found her dead the killer would not have had a two day head start on them:mad:.

    Have the arrested the killer yet?
     
  17. AIKIJUTSU

    AIKIJUTSU New Member

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    You're right. Maybe if they'd shown up when she was on the phone she'd still be alive.
    I rode with a cop one night in Indianapolis, In, whom I thought was a friend. He got a call with a woman screaming in the background while the dispatcher was talking to this cop, "He's knocking down the door, he's gonna kill me!" The cop was about 5 miles away from the lady's house. On the way to the call, he stopped a motorist, and claimed he was drunk. It turned out to be a politician, so he had the guy park his car, and the cop gave him a ride home. Then he went a little farther and stopped a man who was walking down the street. Put him in the car and talked to him for about 20 minutes, let him go. Then he took his sweet time going to the house where the lady had been screaming. He called for backup and waited another 10 minutes for another cop to show up. When he finally went to the door, it had been 45 minutes since the lady stopped screaming. Then he called for an ambulance, a body bag and a coroner. I asked the cop to take me back to the station so I could go home. I never spoke to him again. Obviously he was stalling until he would be in no danger when he got there. His excuse was "We're covered up! We can't keep up with the workload!" Yeah, sure.
     
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  18. Vikingdad

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    Good Lord! I have no idea what I would do if I were in that car. I probably would have at least talked to his superiors about it. I am speechless.
     
  19. AIKIJUTSU

    AIKIJUTSU New Member

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    After that incident, I checked on the whole mess and found that it was typical for it to take 45 minutes for somebody to show up when they got a call of a crime in progress. It appeared to be some kinda chicken-$#!t agreement between them to do that. I'm glad I no longer live in that city.
    PS That was over 35 years ago. I have no idea what it is like now, since I don't live in Indy anymore.
     
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  20. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I got a laugh out of this, too. Robocop is a big guy. He is NOT who I'd want to see on the other side of my kicked down door. :eek: