Wolf 223 55gr HP ammo Deal!

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by Txhillbilly, Apr 6, 2009.

  1. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    I just ordered 2000 rds of Wolf 223 55gr HP ammo from Sportsmans Guide for $260.27 per 1000 rds. I haven't seen low prices like that in a long time.
    Bad news-It isn't in stock,but they are expecting it June 1,2009. Hell,for that price,I don't mind waiting.

    I don't really care for Wolf ammo,but at the prices that everything else is selling for,I'll just have to clean my guns a little more often I guess shooting this stuff.

    Get it while you can guys!
     
  2. slowryde45

    slowryde45 New Member

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    Tx...

    Keep searching the net. I've found Federal XM193 55gr FMJ/1000rds for $450 on various sites. Not the best around, but a little better than Wolf.

    But that isn't a bad price on the Wolf though. Locally here in Oregon, that's about the going price for Wolf, WHEN you can find it. So the wait might be worth it, too.

    Slo
     

  3. Dick Manley

    Dick Manley New Member

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    Just paid $200 for 1k at a local shop.

    -DM-
     
  4. dragunovsks

    dragunovsks New Member

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    Just keep your weapon clean and you shouldn't have any problem with it. It's not moly coated anymore like everybody thinks it is.
     
  5. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Active Member

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    Wolf steel cased ammo is not moly coated-it's lacquer coated to prevent the case from rusting. When you "get happy" or fire a bunch of rounds rapid fire, this lacquer coating will melt and later return to solid form, causing a buildup in the chamber. The best case scenerio is the rounds will have a hard time chambering due to the reduced dimensions of the chamber. The worst case would be partial chambering/lockup and stuck round or firing.
     
  6. slowryde45

    slowryde45 New Member

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    I think you have that reversed Bear...the new stuff is all poly coated. the old traditional wolf was lacquer coated. I've seen some sites still having both in stock. from what I understand the poly coated shells have more of a grey color to them, whereas the lacquer coated shells have more of an olive color.

    at least that's what the man said ;)

    slo
     
  7. dragunovsks

    dragunovsks New Member

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    That's also what the box says. I know 2 guys who shoot nothing but Wolf through their ARs and have had zero issues with them. I even looked on Wolf's website and none of their ammo is lacquer coated anymore.
     
  8. stalkingbear

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    I stand corrected! I was just going by what I had seen on the shelves of neighboring gunshops. I hadn't seen any moly coated ammo yet. I guess it just shows how long it's been since I looked at Wolf ammo. I still have some Brown Bear ammo that's lacquer coated and was basing it on that.
     
  9. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    Slowryde,I try not to buy FMJ ammo for any caliber,around here there are no public ranges that allow it to be fired on their ranges(fear of ricochet's),and I handload all of my varmit hunting ammo for 223.
    Besides that,I will start shooting a Bow & Arrow before I would pay $450 for 1K rds of 223 ammo. THB
     
  10. slowryde45

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    I hear you, Tx. up here in the NW, I normally head for one of the gravel pits to do some plinking in. most of those are remote enough to not worry about ricochets (assuming you don't fire at the boulders ;))

    And I definitely hear you on the $450/1K. I still have cases that cost me less than half that. But unless you do load your own, anymore that's what most of us will have to pay...or worse. As much as I normally shoot, that would be an awful lot of arrows to go chasing though :p

    And Bear...don't fret it. like I was saying, there are quite a few shops that still do have some of the old lacquer coated ammo. I still have some myself, but that normally goes into the VEPR, or an SKS. I have shot it through a few of my AR's, with no probs. mostly, I try to stick with the poly coated Wolf now, and have never had any issues with it in any of my AR's. That's not to say that someone out there won't have an issue with it in there's. I haven't to date, and can honestly say that I have not met anyone who has. I do know quite a few who use it religiously for plinking, and at that price, why not? just remember to give your piece a good cleaning and lubing afterwards, and you should be fine.

    Good shooting to you.
    Slo
     
  11. crockett007

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    Make sure you inspect each round before you load in the mag.

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    the polymer coated wolf runs ok, but we have experienced a few stuck cases and this reversed primer
     
  12. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    I have shot Wolf for years,and yes,you do need to look it over before you load it into a mag. I never had a problem with their coating on the cases whether it was laquer or the new coating. I have shot it out of a Mini 14,both my AR's,a Saiga,and my Kel-tec PLR 16 pistol. It is just a dirty,cheap shooting ammo,that I only prefer to shoot out of the Saiga,and Kel-tec because they dent the crap out of the cases.

    I was just trying to let guys know I found it at a decent price. Most places are getting $320 or more for it.
     
  13. TXnorton

    TXnorton New Member

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    Wolf .223

    I have shot several hundred rounds of Wolf in each of my AR's (1980's vintage Colt SP1 and my new 16" RRA). The Wolf has shot well in both of my AR's, and I have had no FTF or FTE. Based on the lower price of the Wolf I have been very happy with it as range ammo.

    Saturday my brother and I went out to the local range, I gave him a box of the same Wolf that I was shoooting. He had several FTE in his 16" Bushmaster. His AR is well maintained and is well cleaned after every use. We could not figure out why he had the FTE, while I had no problems with the same ammo in my RRA.


    TXnorton
     
  14. slowryde45

    slowryde45 New Member

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    TXnorton,

    without being able to look over the gun, i probably guess that his gas system or extractor would be the issue. he may not be getting enough gas back from the Wolf to fully eject the rounds, or his extractor spring could need some beefing up (check out bravo company for extractor upgrades). another area to look at is proper lubing in his gun, specially in and around the BCG.

    i haven't had any problems with wolf in any of my AR's. and to be totally honest, i want to know that they will run on just about anything i feed them, specially if that is the piece that you are staking your life or your loved ones lives on. ;)

    Slo