Wire-Tap...GPS....

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by LONGHAIR, Feb 29, 2012.

  1. LONGHAIR

    LONGHAIR New Member

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    A guy shot a policeman in Farmington just south of St.Louis and after he ran-away,the police called AT&T and had his cell-phone Wired ...GPS...and tracked-him to a house and busted-him....They say all new smart-phones have GPS that you can't turn-off....Is this Wire-Tapping to you ???.....
     
  2. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Sounds fishy. How did they know what cell number was his and what carrier he had??
     

  3. LONGHAIR

    LONGHAIR New Member

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    I don't know...Good question....I just seen it on the local news yesterday and never thought about that...That's how the Farmington police got the guy from the news report.....:confused:.....
     
  4. LONGHAIR

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    It's not right that they can track you everywhere you go and see everywhere you been....If you leave your camera on your computer they can hack0in even when it's off and watch the room it's pointed in...So I'm told.....
     
  5. jjfuller1

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    had the police talked to him before he shot? maybe handed over his license or told them his name? did he run from his car? lot of missing info.. on the phone side of the story. as long as they had his name bet money the gps part is true
     
  6. XxChino13xX

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    I'd believe it, I heard similar stories years ago. I can get your name possibly, if not then just your city/locale and your provider from an application on my phone, just from your number. If some odd number calls and I'm not expecting a call, I run the number.
     
  7. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    It is not a "wire tap" as conversations/texts cannot be monitored. In exigent circumstances, a cell phone can be "pinged" giving a snap shot of the location of the phone. They will not "track" the phone, only give GPS coordinates and note whether it is moving or stationary. Don't shoot cops and you have little to worry about.
     
  8. c3shooter

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    Agree it is not a wire tap, nor is it truly GPS. It is pinging the phone, and finding what cells the phone is nearest- with 3 cells, sort of like using a radio direction finder.

    As far as the computer camera- there was a school that got busted last year- school issued laptops w/ cameras, seems school was activating camera when kids were at home.

    With ANY electronic device- phone, cell phone, smart phone, tablet, laptop, Ipad- unless it's off and the battery is out, assume it CAN be manipulated by SOMEONE, somewhere.

    Even then, am not too sure. I do know that 40 years ago, a wired telephone could be rigged from the phone company to listen in on what was said around it even when on the hook.
     
  9. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    Lots of things can be done with these smart phones that people never imagined could be done even if they are left off . I was told by a friend that works for verizon that if verizon wanted to they could turn your phone on even if it was off as long as the battery was in it and charged they could put you pretty close to it thru the GPS to find it if lost
     
  10. Tackleberry1

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    We get lost climbers up on MT Hood all the time. I've hear report of there snow caves being located by triangulating their cell signal. Sound like "pinging" as explained by ROBO and C3.

    Tack
     
  11. partdeux

    partdeux Well-Known Member

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    Apparently the SCOTUS ruling on attaching a GPS tracker not being allowed is being rationalized by pinging phones?
     
  12. partdeux

    partdeux Well-Known Member

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    Pinging and triangulating are slightly different.
     
  13. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Am i just anti-cellular, or is anybody else wondering whose call they would take on their way away from a personally-perpetrated homicide? I might have an attorney's number in there, but i don't think i would be on the phone in the aftermath. Eventually, i think people will carry their phones in little faraday-caged cases, like their passports.

    Seriously, that is almost as bad as when a girl takes a call or text during sex, or so i hear (worse if it is from her mom).
     
  14. Yunus

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    Look up E911. Depending on a few factors like your carrier and technology in your phone, GPS data can be obtained by authorities remotely. Who knows what was used in this case but it can be done.
     
  15. LONGHAIR

    LONGHAIR New Member

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    WOW...You can't Hide anywhere nowdays......
     
  16. downsouth

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    Here is a link on how your phone can let other "people" know where you are. It is the laymans explanation and easy to understand.
    I even think I got it. That why I ordered the cell phone below in pic.

    http://www.gpsfortoday.com/cell-phone-gps-tracking/

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  17. LONGHAIR

    LONGHAIR New Member

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    That Link is very interesting.....
     
  18. MrWray

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    Ive heard of that before, there was a public school system here in oklahoma that wanted to know how their students behaved after school hours so they hacked into all the web cams to monitor them. There is so much that is wrong with that its rediculous, Someone should have been criminally charged for that.
     
  19. Yunus

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    That happened in PA as well. I believe someone was charged after it was discovered what was going on.
     
  20. Retaks

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    Its not a wire tap. Its a safety device on all new phones that CAN be turned off but you need to know how to get in the phone to do it. Its not easy to find unless you know where to find it. Its usefull if say you call 911 and have no clue where you are they can look up your gps location and send help. I dont see why the police couldnt use it to find you if they knew it was you that did a crime but it would require a search warrant to be able to use it for that. For the 911 dispatcher to use it they must get your verbal consent (every 911 call is recorded and saved for a long time) to turn on the locater which is in turn sent to the MDT of the officers in route to your location.