Winchester Silvertips, what happened to em?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Gizord1, Jan 4, 2013.

  1. Gizord1

    Gizord1 New Member

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    I used to have a box of these wonderful bullets, but shot all but one like an idiot. I just read somewhere else that they sell for a dollar each?! Are they that rare, now?
     
  2. JonM

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    im assuming your speaking about rifle ammunition. the silver tip is a marketing toy. no real fundamental difference than winchesters standard soft point. they just colored the lead tip silver and gave it a fancy name to sell ammo. with the state of things in the last few years winchester and most other companies stopped wasting money on marketing and just get their ammo to the as shelf fast they can, and it sells with no real trouble.

    most folks just look for winchester whitebox.
     

  3. Gizord1

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    Ah okay. I had them in .44 mag. I thought maybe they were great bullets that were deemed "too violent" by the public, like Black Talons.
     
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  5. robocop10mm

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    It appears they no longer make the .44 mag Silver Tip. The STHP was a conventional jacketed hollowpoint that was nickle plated to give the silver color. It did not have any particular advantage over other makers designs.

    In the low velocity calibers (.38 Spl and .45 ACP) the jacket was actually aluminum.

    In rifles, like the .30-30 there was an aluminum nose cap.

    Look at the Speer Deep Curl or Gold Dot line. Superior bullets.

    WTS, I have Silver Tip ammo in the pistol on my hip at the moment. Speer does not make a Gold Dot in 10mm.
     
  6. Marlinman

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    I think he means the polymer tipped ballistics y'all. They still make em....they are just expensive as all get out. All they are is a black moly coated polymer tipped ballistic in a nichol coated casing
     
  7. Gizord1

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    No I mean Silvertip hollow points. I know what the polymer tips are
     
  8. Marlinman

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    Ah. Ya they quit makin em. They replaced em w the ranger xst/black talons.
     
  9. robocop10mm

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    No the Silver Tips are still made, just in limited calibers
     
  10. nitestalker

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    It was a marketing ploy. I recall guiding hunters in the Wind River Range back in the 1970s. Some of these Hunters thought the Silver Tips had magical powers. The facts were at that time there were many better bullets.
    It was a play on the Silver Bullets of the Lone Ranger back in the 1950s.
     

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  11. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Marketing "ploy". I guess all marketing is a ploy to some degree. Silvertips were/are good bullets. They work. Now Zombiemax IS a marketing ploy. Black Talon, Silvertip, Gold Dot, Starfire, Golden Sabre, DRT. All marketing labels designed to set them apart from the rest of the competition.
     
  12. greydog

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    The original Silvertips were a softpoint bullet with a white metal (tin?)cap over the soft point. the idea of the cap was twofold. First, it reduced point deformation in the magazine. Second, it was intended to inhibit expansion until the bullet had penetrated a couple of inches. The Silvertip was touted as a serious big game bullet and in larger calibers, it was pretty good. In the 270, for instance, it was a bit destructive but very effective nonetheless.
    Original packaging displayed a silvertip grizzly on the box and this is likely the origin of the name and had nothing whatsoever to do with the Lone Ranger.
    The Silvertip was actually a pretty good bullet but was bit destructive in some offerings. I always found them to be accurate and in general, I liked them. I still have a couple of boxes of 30 caliber bullets and some 30/06 and 30/40 Krag factory ammo.
    During the same time period or a little later, Remington offered the Bronze Point. This bullet used a bronze plug in the tip as Nosler and Hornady use polymer tips today. The bronze point was an explosive performer and it seemed like that bronze tip always found it's way into the middle of a steak. I've bitten into a few. GD
     
  13. Gizord1

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    Zombiemax is definitely a marketing ploy. Stupidly, people are buying it. The last gun show I went to, there were so many people talkin about zombies and the zombie apocalypse. They were serious too.
     
  14. greydog

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    Just another example of the decline of our civilization. It has been said that human brain function has peaked and is likely to be in decline. There appears to be plenty of evidence to support this contention. GD
     
  15. nitestalker

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    It was only marginal on heavy game. I have seen hits on Grizz, Moose. Elk and big deer. It was not that great. And yes the Lone Ranger connection caught on with this product. Our clients were in Alaska and the Rocky Mtns. Maybe in your hunt areas for heavy game it was different.:)