Winchester Model 70 .458 WinMag

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by JonM, Mar 6, 2011.

  1. JonM

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    i talk about my 458 winmag a lot but ive never posted pics. mounted on it atm is a leupold VX-7 3.5-14x50mm Long Range. i know its way too much of a scope for this particular rifle but i got tired of destroying scopes after my elpaso weaver K3 gave up the ghost. many deer have been shot using this rifle.

    this rifle i bought around 1988 as a special order rifle. its a classic super express with the only mod being a limb saver recoil pad.

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    my typical load is a 350grn .458 soft point.

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    .458 winmag compaired to .45acp

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    if the weather ever cooperates ill do a range report with its ability to nail 300yd targets.
     
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  3. JonM

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    from speer's website:

    these bullets have a tungsten carbide rod in the center to enable pass through shots on very dangerous game. they will also do quite a decent job disabling vehicles or goblins hiding behind brick walls.
     
  4. AusLach

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    I can't see why you need a recoil pad on that... :rolleyes:

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    Over in SA I had 5 shots out of a .375H&H at the bench before they'd let me hunt. I was pleading with them to let me shoot standing but nope, it had to be over a rest. I probably would've only weighed 140lbs back then, 300 grainers were more than enough punishment for me!

    Funny though, I didn't even feel the recoil when I shot my Springbok :cool:
     
  5. Boyerracing343

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    That is one nice looking gun, and dang that is one hell of a round.
     
  6. Durangokid

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    That is an excellent all around rifle for big game hunting. You can feel secure when hunting big game in Grizz country. This a great rifle to shoot cast lead bullets in the off seasons. I like the fact you can eat right up to the bullet hole no massive bullet damage to meat. You are at the top with a Mdl 70 .458.:D


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  7. JonM

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    Yeah its strange how ya never notice the recoil taking a a shot on a game animal.

    Thanks. Those are the smaller bullets they run about 2400ish fps. I don't have any 510grn atm they aren't commonly found on store shelves round here.

    Its a shame winchester doesn't make that high quality sort of rifle anymore. Nowadays they use a high gloss paint that mimics bluing. You can tell the diff when you see it in person.
     
  8. JonM

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    That's why I love the 458. Put the round in the ribs no real meat damage just 2 45cal holes and the heart and lungs disintegrate dropping the deer instantly. I can hunt anything on the planet with it.
     
  9. Fleetman

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    Nice rifle!

    I have a cheap Bushnell scope on my CZ550 Lott (middle gun in the attachment) and it still works fine after 160 500 grain rounds. I use the .458 Mag rounds as my "plinkers" and the Lotts for the days when I feel like a little (?) more. I don't hunt with this rifle....merely a collector.

    I would like to try some of the 350 grain bullets someday and I'm looking forward to your range report.

    Winchesters are top-shelf in my opinion and as stated, nice rifle! I am envious sir!
     

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  10. JonM

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    thanks :)

    ive got a CZ550 in 458lott too i use it as my plinker :) its a topuch heavy and the barrel is a little long for my tastes in a field gun but the set trigger is superb and i love the express sights.

    i bought it at a gun show for 500$ the price was right and it looked like it had only been fire a time or two. i think someone bought it and didnt know what they were getting heh.
     
  11. M14sRock

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    Beautiful, Jon! Mod 70 is as good as they come (though that CZ550 is pretty nice, too).
     
  12. JonM

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    the winchester is my second ever centerfire rifle and by far my favorite. my first was a colt sp1 so i went from 223 to 458 winmag. bought it when i was 21. i still remember the gunstore owner shaking his head at a kid that really wanted a winchester 458 lol. it also forced me to start reloading to be able to afford to shoot it.

    im sure that gunshop guy thought he was gonna make a bit of money when i brought it back after shooting lol. but he did try very hard to talk me out of it and into a 30-06 instead.
     
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  13. Sniper03

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    Jon,

    That is a nice rifle! When you look at a good rifle you can just sense the quality just by looking at it. Someday I would love to find a real nice pre-64 Winchester in 30-06. But I like your 458 "NICE!" And the fact that a young man of 21 purchased it is Great! I bet the guy at the Gun Shop did think you would be back!

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  14. M14sRock

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    My shooting partner has a very clean pre-64 in .30-06 that he is probably selling.
     
  15. JonM

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    thanks :) the old winchesters are indeed the best looking rifles produced in america. i just wish i had known about the super grade back then i would have waited to get one till i had the money.

    i read a lot of stuff on african hunting and shooting big bore rifles before i took the first shot. i had 6 months to research everything i could find about them considering there was no real interweb back then it wasnt easy finding real info. i used the library at UT texas and SWT sanmarcos texas along with local libraries.

    touching off that first 510grain elephant bullet was scary as hell. i fired one shot that first day. a week later i was back at the range and fired the other 19. i fell in love with the thing. after that i bought my first loading manual and press. it had open sights which are currently in the gun safe and for about a year thats what i left on it.

    i soon bought an old weaver k3 or k4, i get it mixed up, off a guy at a gunshow for 20$. it was an el paso made scope with post reticle. that was one TOUGH scope it last until 3 years ago when it started to lose zero round to round. we are talking several thousand 458 magnum shots over the course of 20 years.

    i dont always use the big 510 bullets most of the time its 350 or 400 grn loads. in that rifle its about like a 12ga 3inch mag slug in felt recoil. whenever i go to the range with it a crowd soon forms its not something people run across everyday.
     
  16. TGReaper

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    Winchester Super Express

    I purchased my Super Express in the middle 80s,and if I was to be limited to one rifle in would be my Mod.70 S.E.
    Mine is chambered for the .375 H&H and is beautifully accurate as well as being enough gun for anything I want to hunt.
    After I destroyed a couple of scopes I went to a M4 Leupold fixed 4x and have had no more problems.
    As far as I'm concerned the Mod.70 S.E. is one of the very best.
    Dan