Winchester 70 Heavy Varmint 308

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by ddmpi, Mar 22, 2013.

  1. ddmpi

    ddmpi New Member

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    Looking for some input and pricing on a Winchester 70 Heavy Varmint .308 It has 26 inch heavy stainless steel match barrel. The gun is in like new condition. He is asking $1500.00 The current owner bought it new and states he has fired less than 200 rounds. I did get a chance to shoot the rifle and at 100 yards and I could put a quarter over the 5 shots shooting Black Hills 175 grain match ammo. It has the original scope on it from the 1990's which is a Tasco World Class Plus. Is it a 3x9 x 44mm. This probably the first thing I would change. Any thoughts on a good scope in the $500 to $700 range for this rifle? I would appreciate any input. I have attached several photos.
     

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  2. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    ddmpi,

    Too much money for that set up! The rifle sells at full retail for around $1180 and that scope is around $59.00 at Walmart. Even if you add the base and the rings at $65 if they are Leupold for example. At full retail the total would only be $1300. So he is trying to make some good money off of you far over and above retail! And some dealers will do you better than retail if you shop around. And then take into account you are going to buy a better scope for it! Nice rifle but in my opinion a RIP OFF!

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  3. ddmpi

    ddmpi New Member

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    Sniper03 thanks for your input. I was thinking about offering him $1000.00. Is that about the right price?
     
  4. rockratt

    rockratt Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    That's probably more along the line of the actual value.
     
  5. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    $800 would be about all I'd offer for the rifle.
    You can buy a brand new one for $1200
     
  6. jpattersonnh

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    I would agree. The value is just not there.

    I'd rather go w/ this. I would also look for a 1:10 twist barrel.
    http://www.snipercentral.com/howa.htm

    This is a great entry level rifle.
    http://www.snipercentral.com/scriflepackagedetails.phtml?packageid=1

    This is my older Howa HB .308 22" barrel, 1:10 twist. Bought it for $495.00 years ago. Pillar bedded. Bolt is 1 piece construction (as opposed to Remingtons 3 piece), Flat bottom receiver (more ridged/strong). It will shoot 1 ragged 5 Hole group at 100 yards even w/ surplus 7.62x51. Wears a sightron SII 3-12x42mmAO. Same as big sky w/ standard reticule.

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  7. ddmpi

    ddmpi New Member

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    Thanks everyone for the input. I think I will do some further research into the Howa rifles. I will make a low ball offer on the Winchester 70 and if he does not want to come way down I will do some more looking around. So if anyone has any other ideas let me know. All input for appreciated.
     
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  8. huffmanite

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    Agree with others on price being too high.

    About the Tasco World Class Plus. You might want to give the scope a chance if you intend to buy another in its power range. Own a Tasco 3-9 from this time period and I'm always impressed with its optics whenever I shoot the rifle with it at range I'm a member.

    Past weekend at range, shot with a gent who owned one of the older Japanese Tasco scopes that he'd found new in box at a gun show for $100 not that long ago. Can't remember its power range, but much higher than 3-9. He'd mounted it on a new bench rest rifle build and he was quite impressed with the TASCO. Mind you, this particular Tasco owner is quite an experienced shooter and absolutely doesn't mind buying the better brand name scopes that sell for a heck of a lot more for one of his rifles.
     
  9. ddmpi

    ddmpi New Member

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    huffmanite...... I agree 100% with you on the scope. Tasco built some very good scopes in the early 1990s before Tasco went out of business or was bought out and started building junk. If I buy this rifle for the right price I would most likely put it one of my grand kids rifles. It is a keeper. It is clear, has very good glass and operates smoothly. There in no sign of any fungus and not a scratch on it. I was going to look at a scope more in the 4x16 range or maybe in the 6x20 range to help these old eyes to put on this rifle.
     
  10. ddmpi

    ddmpi New Member

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    jpattersonnh......Thanks for the info on the Sightron scope. I had seen them before but never had a chance to shoot a rifle that had one on it. I was looking at the reviews on the Sightron scopes and they got high marks. People comparing them to high end Nikon, Leupold and Nightforce scopes. That is pretty good company without the high price tag. Thanks again
     
  11. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    just looked a beautiful Winchester M70 in 300 WSM today. had a beautiful walnut stock with ebony forend tip, nice blued finish and looked to be very lightly used. price, $695 at my LGS on his used gun rack.

    IMO, that's way overpriced for that rifle and scope.