Will Speedmaster 552 do the job for me?

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by warhawk77, Sep 8, 2011.

  1. warhawk77

    warhawk77 New Member

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    I'm pretty new to the scope world, just go my first one a few months ago. So I'm very inexperienced with them and need feedback.

    I have a speed master 552 that I've had for 20+ years. The rifle has always been accurate but never really shot past 50 yards. At 50 yards I'm holding right at a 1" group. Now I'm wanting to do some 100+ yard shots. I would like to still be able to shoot at closer ranges as my boys aren't ready for the long shots yet.

    My questions are

    Can this rifle hold a 2" group at 100? How about 200? If not what size group is normal?

    I know I'm going to have to scope the rifle with a pretty good size scope to hit those targets. Any suggestions of good ones that won't break the bank?

    If this rifle won't do what I'm looking for what is a good choice on my next one?
     
  2. hiwall

    hiwall Well-Known Member

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    The rifle maybe could do 2" groups a 100 yards. But wind gets to be a bigger factor the farther out you go. Also any thing that you might do gets magnified the farther out you shoot. Also the farther out you shoot the bullet has much less velocity, remember the path of the bullet starts out fairly flat then turns down sharper and sharper as you get farther out. And your scope might work fine at 50 yards and farther but poorly at closer ranges.
     

  3. Dennis845

    Dennis845 New Member

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    I recently traded my Remington 552 for a Browning T-Bolt, big mistake. Any way, sounds like you want the best of two worlds with one scope. Ain't going to happen especially with a hunting grade .22, hunting ammo and a low magnification scope (3x9). For best results, you need a minimum of 16-24 power magnification and competition match grade .22 ammo (expensive). It's a PITA to change out scopes for target / hunting applications. Like said above, the wind will have a drastic effect on windage.
     
  4. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    The standard zero for .22 LR is 50 yards. The 552 is a great HUNTING grade rifle at that range. (got one, love it).

    For a TARGET rifle (bolt, heavy barrel) 100-125 yards is about it for the .22LR. The bullet is simply running out of steam. When the bullet drops into subsonic speeds, it tends to wobble. Can you hold 2 inch groups at 100 off the bench? Quite possibly- depending on wind. I roll empty cans at 100 with my SpeedMaster, and with a Remington 550-1.

    In classic rifles, the Mossberg 44US (or 44US a, b, c, or d) with a good scope and GOOD match ammo will do one hole 5 shot groups at 50 yards (and shop carefully, about $200 plus a scope) In new rifles, a heavy barreled Savage 93 is surpisingly accurate. I have one in .17 HMR that is shooting 1/4" groups at 100 yards.
     
  5. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    I agree with C3, the 22lr is not a 200 yard round.

    If you want to shoot off the grown-up bench you'll need to step-up to a centerfire bolt gun. (Or mortgage your house and go buy an Anschutz)
     

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  6. warhawk77

    warhawk77 New Member

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    Thanks for info guys. I know the 22lr won't do much over 100 yards and I know wind makes a huge difference on placement at range.

    Yes I would like the best of both worlds or maybe capable at both worlds.

    I really want a bolt action 22lr so maybe it's time to get one.
     
  7. marksman

    marksman New Member

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    If your trying to get good group at 200 yards it might be better to upgrade to a .220 swift or a .222 Remington or even a 22 hornet
     
  8. armsmaster270

    armsmaster270 New Member

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    Lucky dog the 550-1 I have the bolt broke. I got it in the 50's. Many a round went through it.
     
  9. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    270- I have 4 of the 550's (long story, includes finding 2 in one week, and getting one for Father's Day). Meantime, if you still got the rifle, Numrich has the bolts-

    Bolt