Wildcat Cartridges.

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Axxe55, May 14, 2014.

  1. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    lets talk and discuss widlcat cartridges. old ones, new ones and those that started out as wildcats and became factory cartridges.

    lets discuss their history and where some started at and where that have ended up at over time.

    lets even discuss our ideas for a new wildcat and what we could expect from it.

    wildcat cartridges are one of those really interesting subjects of guns and cartridges i love to learn about and to talk about.
     
  2. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    I would like to start this one by saying that the 06 & H&H case have probably spawned more factory Wildcat cartridges than any other in history !...............
     

  3. seancslaughter

    seancslaughter New Member

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    lets start big and relatively new then with the 408 Cheytac thing is a beast! I wanna shoot it! ALOT!
     
  4. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    What about the .416 Barrett ?...............
     
  5. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Active Member

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    Every cartridge in existence started out as a wildcat did it not?

    Whether it happened in someone's basement or in a fancy test facility somebody had to ask, what happens with this bullet, in this cartridge, in this barrel, with this much of this powder?
     
  6. seancslaughter

    seancslaughter New Member

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    Actually I think the definition of a wildcat is when someone takes an existing cartridge and modifies it(usually seating a much smaller bullet) with a big powder charge


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  7. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Wildcats? well, we HAD a bunch of .50 BMG brass, but all we had was some .22 and .17 caliber bullets, SO...........

    17-50 cartridge.jpg

    :p:D:);):rolleyes:
     
  8. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Active Member

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    Yep, that's more or less, what I said. Somebody has to ask what if....
     
  9. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Incidentally- this probably should not be considered a true wildcat- but it IS rather interesting-

    You are all familiar with the 7.62x25 pistol cartridge- aka the Tokarev? Instead of loading that with the usual 7.62 bullet, load it with a .30 cal sabot, holding a .25 or .22 caliber bullet. Rather fast little thing!
     
  10. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    looks like the powder charge would probably vaporize the projectiles.:D
     
  11. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Well, Doc- at 5200 fps, it really does not matter if it is lead or lead plasma that hit you.....:p
     
  12. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Point taken.
     
  13. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    the true definition of a wildcat is one that isn't factory produced, or chambered by the factory.

    here is some interesting reading on wildcat cartridges.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildcat_cartridge
     
  14. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    Do it all the time, thats not a wildcat !.................
     
  15. GonzoLonzo

    GonzoLonzo New Member

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    Sir, you are not right in the head :D:D. That is funny as hell.
     
  16. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    This is a wildcat !..........32 NAA.
     

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  17. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    one wildcat cartridge i have wondered why it never was adopted by one of the factory rifle makers, is the 6.5-06 cartridge. no one has ever chambered that cartridge in a factory rifle that i can recall, or offered factory loaded ammo either.

    what's not to love about a 30-06 case necked down to a 6.5mm?

    it's ballistics are right on par with the 284-6.5mm. cartridge.

    has great long range ballistics and accuracy.
     
  18. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    Its because of the .25-06 & the .270 Win...............
     
  19. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Except it WAS chambered by a firearms manufacturer, NAA. And WAS produced by an ammunition manufacturer, Corbon, I believe.

    How about the 9mm Federal? Rimmed 9mm. Not a wild cat, obsolete

    As far as sabots...Try .45-70 with MMP sabots and .40 caliber pistol bullets. Moderate load of a faster burning powder like 4227 and 2000 FPS, ZERO recoil coyote loads are a reality
     
  20. DrFootball

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    And I hear thats a hot lil biotch isn't it?? Almost wanna get one with that pocket auto of theirs,..now That's a pocket gun back up!!


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