Why the Taurus hate?

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by Scrapper, Feb 12, 2009.

  1. Scrapper

    Scrapper New Member

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    hi guys!

    I have been cruising the forums here, and a lot of people really don't like Taurus guns.

    I own 2 and I love them both. My .357 snubbie is the most reliable gun I've ever owned, and my M66 .357 is super accurate and consistent.

    My question is: Why?

    I mean specifically why. What happened to you with Taurus that turned you off? Please understand, this is a fact-finding mission for me. I like Taurus, but if there is some huge elephant in the room I don't know about, I want to know.

    I am looking for specific experiences in this thread, I want to compile a list and cross reference with other manufacturers. I am a bit of nerd (engineer by trade) and hard data is what I live for.

    Let's get a quantifiable list of incidents compiled here, so noobs and others can make accurate judgments!

    I'll go first:

    Out of the box my M66 would not index with rounds in the cylinder. The tolerances between the cylinder and frame were too tight. Sent it back to Taurus and they told me that there was too much bluing on the frame causing the problem. They replaced the cylinder and the gun now indexes fine and shoots VERY consistent groups. I have about 500 rounds through it, and it is my daily carry piece.

    My 605 has been a trooper and a workhorse. No complaints.
     
  2. Dillinger

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    Scrapper - I don't have any negative experiences with Taurus and have felt for a while now that they have been turning out some very good bang for the buck guns.

    However, prior to about 5 or 6 years ago, Taurus did have a spotty workmanship history, even though they did have a warranty in place.

    At some point, either they got serious, or they got bought out, but they completely redid their production facility with all new CNC machines and their overall fit and finish, especially on their semi auto handguns, went way up.

    I have handled and shot their PT1911 and for the money, you would be hard pressed to find a better deal in a new in the box 1911. It has all the features and a lifetime warranty for whomever owns the weapon, which is great in my opinion.

    I have heard tales of their customer service being difficult to deal with, since you have to send the pistol to Florida I think, instead of the main production facility, and their turn around time isn't the best. That said, I have heard the same thing about EVERY manufacturer out there. :rolleyes:

    I too would be interested to see some clear cut examples of modern weapons that flat out sucked....

    JD
     

  3. Scrapper

    Scrapper New Member

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    I've heard that there stuff USED to be very...er...spotty. I wonder if we are dealing with leftover bad vibes. I think dates of incidents will be needed as well.

    If we get enough of these, I will compile a report and track incidents and trends (WOW...I am REALLY nerdy). I'll post the article here and at the other website I frequent (Bullshido.net). It could be good research.
     
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  4. raveneap

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    I've heard that in "the old days" their product was less than satisfactory. but I think that that was a number of years ago .Over the past five years I've owned a number of Taurus handguns, both revolvers and semi-autos, and other than a slightly rough DA trigger on a 17hmr revolver which was easily rectified, I had no problem with any of them. In fact, my PT1911 was an excellent weapon. I think that they've probably got their act together.
     
  5. Scrapper

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    That's 2 positive reports for the PT1911. My father in law has one. Nice gun.
     
  6. AsmelEduardo

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    In here the Taurus 24/7 is becoming a popular option, and I no heard any complaint ever... and the Model 66 revolver is the reliable workhorse of almost every private security in the country, the Millenium Pro series are very popular around too but I've heard many people complaining about the trigger and stuff, but I've heard exactly the same about the S&W Sigmas...
     
  7. canebrake

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    Good move scrapper, I have never shot a Taurus but have this unexplainable bigitory towards the mark?

    I look forward to your effort to clear the good name of Taurus!

    OBTW, how about a photo of you wearing your skirt for the members bro? [​IMG]

    Damn, I can never finish a complement! [​IMG]
     
  8. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    I've seen the fiber optic sight (Front sight) come off a Tracker at the range, with 10 rounds through the gun.

    I consistently hear about people having to send new ones back to get fine tuned, which is a huge reason I don't buy one. It would kinda suck to get your new gun, go to the range, and 10 minutes later be shipping it off for whatever grinding or part switching is needed.

    I too am interested in their QC process, as these stories abound.
     
  9. Scrapper

    Scrapper New Member

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    cool....

    all research helps. I will start on these now.


    and for canebrake:
     

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  10. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Props bro!
     
  11. Scrapper

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    Trying to lock these down...



     
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  12. Dillinger

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  13. dnthmn2004

    dnthmn2004 New Member

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    Isn't this thread about bad experiences with Taurus in general, not just malfunctions of their firearms?

    If not, sorry for adding. Sorry for posting a "duplicate", it was a brief search and I saw two different member IDs.
     
  14. Dillinger

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    No, you are correct, but stalkingbear had no problems with the Taurus as a weapon. He wanted to tinker and he wanted something specific. In the second, or maybe the third, page I asked him what his impression of the weapon was and he endorsed it.

    JD
     
  15. dnthmn2004

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    I did read over a bunch of thread titles that looked like owners liked their experience with Taurus. Maybe you should include that in your data to get some percentages, Scrapper.
     
  16. Scrapper

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    That's what I'm doing. I'm trying to see if Taurus has a greater percentage of problems with customers then, say Ruger or S&W, and the degree to which it's higher.

    So far, it looks like Taurus quality took a big leap in the early-to-mid nineties. THey apparently produced some real turds before then.
     
  17. oldandslow

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    scrapper, 2/13/09

    First- nice wedding picture.

    Second- I am one of the unfortunate ones who has had some bad Taurus experiences. I purchased a new PT-99 (a 9mm Beretta 92 clone with adjustable sights) in the late 90's. At about a 3000 round count the locking block broke, locking the slide partially open. I contacted Taurus and they said to send in the broken part and they would replace it free under their warrant. Three months later I had not heard anything so I tried calling them, but I had trouble getting anyone to answer the phone. When someone finally answered he was helpful and told me they had shipped my part to the wrong state.

    They finally shipped it to me and it was worked well except for the roll pin holding the adjustable sight in place. The pin kept walking out and the rear sight would fall off onto the ground while I was shooting ( this made my scores in the local IPSC matches much worse as I either had to look around on the ground for my sight or shoot without the rear sight on the pistol). Rather than deal with the Taurus customer service again I removed the old sight, filed a dovetail into the cut-out and installed an old HK-USP rear sight. It works great.

    So while I do not hate Taurus I think their quality control and customer service could be better, and I have not bought another Taurus. Hope this helps.

    best wishes- oldandslow
     
  18. Scrapper

    Scrapper New Member

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    That's what I'm looking for.

    Slow turnaround on warrantee repairs is a recurring theme.
     
  19. 30-30remchester

    30-30remchester New Member

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    the quest for knowledge is never a nerdy pursuit for this is where the wheat is seperated from the chaff. if only more people were so commited. to find someone who is a champion of a product that is willing to search for the bad along with the good is refreshing. keep up the good work.