why my friend needed a firearm

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by CaseyChadwell, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. CaseyChadwell

    CaseyChadwell New Member

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    A friend of mine missed work one weekend, when he came back his duck dynasty beard was gone. I immediately assumed he had went to jail. When asked it turns out he was sent to the local mental hospital. Here's why...after waking up with his children early Friday morning he was attempting to make them breakfast. His home had been broken into several times so when he heard something go bump that wasn't supposed to go bump he immediately feared someone was in the house. Tur s out, he was right! One guy fled out the back door and he lost sight of him. He did see the other guy run into the building. He ran outside and heard one of the guys under his porch, he grabbed the only weapon he seen...a gallon of gas and poured it on the guy and told him if he moved he would burn him up. Needless to say he didn't move. Not a few moments later the police responded to his 911 call and immediately drew down on him with sidearms and placed him in handcuffs. The two methed out attempted robbers were released immediately, the one hosed off, and both given rides home (from the house they broke into) by police. My friend was put on a 72 hour psych hold and his children were removed from his home immediately. I told him he should have gotten a shotgun for home defense before those drug addicts broke in again.
     
  2. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    So you can't use flammable liquids for defensive purposes, legally?
    :( damn!


    FWIW, I've never met a tweeker who wasn't afraid of a barky german shepherd-type dog. Maybe your buddy could stop by the pound and gear up.
     

  3. CaseyChadwell

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    He needs to do something. He is supposed to get his three flat screen TVs back today they found in a pawn shop from the last time someone broke in. Good idea about the dog though. I'm the guy everyone knows that pushes the idea of firearms on people so sometimes I don't think about the other means of keeping druggies out of your belongings. Thanks for the advice.
     
  4. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    I'd recommend a security system with cameras so he doesn't get locked up when they come back and he defends himself again.
     
  5. nchunt101

    nchunt101 New Member

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    Shame he didnt set the bastar* on fire when he had the chance.
     
  6. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    It doesn't have to be "either or"; he could get a barky german shepherd AND a good HD shotgun.


    I have known a number of tweekers over the years; most of them had firearms or were accustomed to firearms being around them (sometimes with their wigged out friends waving them at imaginary enemies :rolleyes: ). If you want to scare them, you have to step outside the norm, even the norm for tweekers. Scary dogs are a natural, wired-in fear, especially for people who spend days or weeks paranoid as heck about "the drug dog" showing up. Many shelters will let you walk a dog around to see how it reacts to you and your kids before you decide. I had this one buddy I had to quit hanging out with when he got too weird, but before that, I noticed the grips on his colt revolver were blotchy/faded in spots; his funky tweeker sweat had messed up the finish severely (I think he slept holding it under his pillow).
     
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  7. manta

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    Why was he put in a psych doesn't make sense to me. ? Can the police qust through someone into a psych ward or hold them without a psych evaluation.
     
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  8. CaseyChadwell

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    I don't know if he will be allowed to own a firearm now. They told him he just checked out mentally, so I don't know if that will prevent him from getting a firearm even though there were no charges brought against him. He still hasn't got to get his kids back either which is what really bothers him, like it would all of us with kids.
     
  9. CaseyChadwell

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    Have to give him props for originality though with the gas! :). And I'm not sure why they did, I imagine because Spencer county sucks and they just pulled up on a big bearded dude with a lighter in his hands threatening to burn someone up if they moved...
     
  10. JW357

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    Based on what you said, Orangello, the German Shepherd sounds like the perfect dog for that purpose.

    Regarding your friend, OP. That's pretty sh*tty. We should be allowed to defend ourselves with whatever we want...
     
  11. FrontierTCB

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    I'm thinking their has to be more to the story. Not that you are not telling what you know, but I feel he may have left out some details when relating it to you.
     
  12. manta

    manta Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I agree doesn't make sense.
     
  13. CaseyChadwell

    CaseyChadwell New Member

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    I think the dog is the best choice at this point myself. And I haven't got to see any paper work, but I've never known him to stretch the truth any. I may be wrong and there may be a lot more to the story, but I relayed what he said happened. I am going to talk to him about a good dog this weekend though. Very good idea!
     
  14. CaseyChadwell

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    I'll see if I can't find out some more information. You all have me thinking now...
     
  15. MisterMcCool

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    I suppose he would have appeared a bit nuts holding up a lighter and threatening a gasoline-soaked punk. But once the cops figured out who was the victim and who was the trespasser, things should have turned around.
     
  16. CaseyChadwell

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    OK, apparently one of his kids (the oldest who is 11) was out there and seen the whole thing. Apparently the son had a lighter of his own...so that sounds like maybe child endangerment?
     
  17. gr8oldguy

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    The whole story doesn't make sense. I think you'd better ask your friend what really happened. good luck
     
  18. Hobbit712

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    Police tend not to release tweaker burglars caught in the act. Something does not add up here.:confused:
     
  19. DeltaF

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    There is something very off about this story. Laws vary from state to state but police generally cannot involuntary commit someone to a mental institution on a whim. Usually committals are done by family members and if the police have any involvement at all it is just to verify the paperwork and enforce it if the family member is combative.

    The only time we CAN do a committal on our own in this state is if the person tells us they are going to commit suicide. And even then usually we just turn them over to EMS and let the doctors and family members handle it from there. To avoid a lawsuit.

    Also, police don't normally just let burglars caught in the act walk free, regardless of the homeowners actions.
     
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  20. MisterMcCool

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    Can police take him for evaluation?