Why is it almost impossable to find 12 guage 3 1/2" slugs?

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by mayscat44, Jun 20, 2012.

  1. mayscat44

    mayscat44 New Member

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    I've only found 1 company on the internet that sells 'em...just wondering why?
     
  2. Hawg

    Hawg New Member

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    Why do you need them?
     

  3. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    There's the answer: few want them.
     
  4. willshoum

    willshoum New Member

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    Hard to find....

    The same goes for 16 ga. You can allways make your own......By the By what are you hunting.........:eek::)
     
  5. gmaster456

    gmaster456 New Member

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    You'd be better off using a field artillery cannon.
     
  6. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    What makes you think you need 12 gauge 3 1/2" slugs ?
     
  7. oli700

    oli700 New Member

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    any of you guys ever think people just want things because they can ?
     
  8. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Sure but why would a company tool up to make something that would sit on the shelf. If there's a limited market for it then it seems logical that there would be limited availability or suppliers.

    Maybe the question is better stated as "what do you expect to gain out of a 3 1/2 inch shell holding a slug that you wouldn't get out of a 3 inch or 2 3/4 inch shell holding the same slug other than a larger shell and lower mag capacity?

    Would we gain more velocity or a heavier slug?
    What does one or both take care of that the other offerings don't?

    I'm not sure so I'm asking as well.
     
  9. Josh1158

    Josh1158 New Member

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    Cuz that would hurt like hell
     
  10. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    The additional shell length on the 3.5 is for shot, not powder. Since waterfowling is limited to non-lead shot, needing a larger shot size, a 3.5 steel shot is about equal to a 3 inch lead shot shell.

    Since the slug is lead, it really gains nothing by the extra half inch of shell.
     
  11. elfmdl

    elfmdl New Member

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    You can find them in stores a lot easier around turkey season.
     
  12. kytowboater

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    Visit KY walmarts. There are normally a lot of them on he shelves here.
     
  13. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    12 ga 3 1/2 Slugs! As stated who needs them! And how many have you fired? Better you than me when they are not necessary to start with. I do not have any elephants or cape buffalo here in Tennessee "LOL" :D

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  14. kytowboater

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    Oops sorry didn't read the slugs part. Still not to hard to find in Lex. Would NOT wanna shoot those regular.
     
  15. SSGN_Doc

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    That was pretty much what I was thinking. And I figure if you can't gain anything then having a more compact shell would be more of an advantage for storage and mag capacity.

    So, they're probably scarce because no one wants a larger shell that gains them nothing.
     
  16. mayscat44

    mayscat44 New Member

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    That's just it...because my shotgun can feed them! Everyone knows that when someone says "you don't need that" it makes you want it even more (just the kid in me I suspose), though I'm 37. Now I've read contradictory posts here. The logical reasoning (that I wasn't aware of by the way) that the extra half inch doesn't provide more powder makes the round an excercise in futility doesn't jive with the recoil comments. I have however learned something here, thank you all!!
     
  17. ninjatoth

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    i'm wincing just reading 3.5" and slug in the same sentence.I shot 2 rounds of 3" 1oz slugs a few weeks ago and set the gun down and decided to not do that again!If a 3.5" can do the job than a 2.75" can just the same.
     
  18. gmaster456

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    I sighted in my guns with 2 3/4" 300 grain slugs with a velocity of 2000fps (Hornady SST's). After a couple of those and a few high velocity sluggers, I had a recoil induced headache.

    I dread when I have to do it again next season :(.

    It's worth it though. Those SST's are as accurate as a centerfire at 200 yards. I'm in a shotgun only area, but with those, I'm not really at too big of a disadvantage to the rifle guys during whitetail season.
     
  19. mayscat44

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    So that being said, is there a powder difference in 2 3/4" vs 3" (forgive my ignorance)...I have to admit that I use 3 1/2" #4 buck over 3" #4 buck for mountain coyotes in VA because I thought there was a powder difference. Am I better off or not?
     
  20. ninjatoth

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    Here's a few facts on those 12 gauge loads:
    A 3" #4 shot shell has 41- 20.7 grain pellets moving at 1225fps.A 3.5" #4 shot shell has 54- 20.7 grain pellets moving at 1050fps.Energy per pellet from the 3" shell is 69 ft lbs energy.Energy per pellet from the 3.5" shell is 51 ft lbs energy.Total combined energy from the 3" shell is 2829 ft lbs energy.Total combined energy from the 3.5" shell is 2737 ft lbs energy. :eek: my opinion-I don't think it makes one bit of difference what you use between these choices,except you may get a hair more penetration on the 3"..and I mean a hair literally,like one hair deeper on that coyote. ;)