Why does a 357 or 44 Mag cost more then a 30-30??

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by spittinfire, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    I don't understand and maybe I'm missing something but I own 2 357s and a 44 Mag. I wouldn't mind a lever action rifle in either but they cost a bunch more then a 30-30....Why? Power is about the same....am I missing something?
     
  2. Wings-ofthe-Luftwaffe

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    This is a shot in the dark but i would venture to guess novelty. Alot of companies make and regularly sell 30-30's all day every day. A few select companies still make rifles chambered in a revolver caliber. paying for a specialty item.
     

  3. UnderFire

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    It's crazy....
    The price of a lever action Marlin 30/30 is $360 (in my area).
    I saw a lever action rifle from the same mfg. chambered in .44 mag for $700.00, at a local gun store. I thought- :eek:
    I figured it wouldn't sell and maybe if the price drops I'll buy it.
    Well, I was at the same store this past week and the rifle is gone. WOW!! :confused:
     
  4. spittinfire

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    I thought that too but you can't get the same model Marlin in 30-30 as you can in 44. The 30-30 is a 336 and the 44 is an 1894. I'm a Marlin fan but I still can not understand what makes the price difference.....What am I missing?
     
  5. UnderFire

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    spittinfire,
    Yes, both Marlins have a different model number, but they look identical.
    The only difference being the chambering of each- that I can tell.
    I'm with ya- what gives? :confused:
     
  6. BILLYBOB44

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    Supply and Demand..

    Spitty, it's called supply+demand. The old 30-30 is a great caliber. Probably dropped more Deer than any other cal. bar none. Problem is, at this time not too many people want a 30-30. Many more people are more interested in the handgun caliber rifles. For what it's worth, my state, Indiana, does not allow any standard Hi power Rifle loads, for Deer hunting. No: .223,.243,7MM,30-30,.308,30-06, etc. It does, however allow "Common Handgun" caliber center fire rifles, for Deer hunting. This includes: .357Mag.,.41Mag.,.44Mag.,.45Colt, 454Cas.,460Ruger, 500S&W. For our area, this drives up the price of a handgun caliber, center fire rifle. For me, I get by with my Mossy 12 gauge, and my 9 1/2" SuperRed Hawk in .44 Magnum. The .44 with handloads only=Damn them Factory Loads are pricey!!!:confused::eek::)
     
  7. CA357

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    There aren't as many pistol caliber leverguns manufactured as there are rifle calibers. Supply and demand.
     
  8. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    That's sort of what I was thinking but I wasn't sure. I just like the idea of having a rifle in the same caliber as some of my handguns.

    Billybob, your state has some crappy hunting laws!
     
  9. cpttango30

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    They are not even close to being the same guns.

    The 336 is a more modern action. That I am sure uses a minimal amount of machining. Where as the 1895 is in my eyes the best lever action design ever. It is strong smooth and requires lots of work to manufacture.

    If you want a good strong modern action then get the 336 if you want the strongest lever gun action ever designed get the 1895 there is a reason this action is still being made after 115 years. Just like the 1911 there is a reason for them to still be on the market.
     
  10. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    I knew there was a difference but I wasn't sure what it was.
     
  11. BILLYBOB44

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    Yes the hunting laws stink. To off-set those laws, the Carry laws are great.:D
     
  12. UnderFire

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    Marlin's model 336 was introduced in 1948 and was the rival to Winchester's model 94. Marlin's 336 is only found in .35 Remington & .30/30. Marlin's model 1894 is chambered in .357Mag/ .38 Special, .44Mag/.44 Special & .45 Colt.
    I'm not sure about some Marlin models having a better quality lever action, that may be true. I've always heard that Marlin's lever actions are of the same quality on all their rifles/models and are a timeless design.
    Marlin's 1895 model is chambered in .45-70 & .450Marlin only.
    But, Marlin does now have deluxe & competition models that may have better quality everything.
     
  13. wolfdog

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    Marlins current 1895 rifle and 336 are the same design. 1895 and 444 are just "big bore" versions. 1894 is also same basic design. 1895,444,1894 all have Ballard type cut rifleing, 336 all have microgrove.
     
  14. UnderFire

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    wolfdog,

    Do you know of any Marlin rifles including the competition series having a better lever action?

    The reason I ask is because, the model that Annie Oakley used in her trick shooting events is the the same model 39 that is available today. But of course the model 39 has been refined and the aesthetics modernized since 1870.
     
  15. wolfdog

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    Have never had anything to do with Marlins competion or delux models. Put on a decent reciever or tang sight and find the right ammo and ever one I have messed with would outshoot me. The biggest thing is finding the ammo the gun likes. Most rimfires will have a load they like better than others. As to Anne Oakley and her trick shooting from what I understand it was mostly that, i.e. trick shooting. She shot glass balls, just about like Christmas oranments with smooth bore and shot shells, just one pellet hitting the ball made for impressive breakage.
     
  16. divinginn

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    I remember buying a 44 marlin in the early 80s at Kmart for a 110 dollars,sold it a few years later for about 150,wished I would have kept that one.:(
     
  17. wolfdog

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    I know your pain, some years ago I ran into a deal on one in 41 mag, and passed because I didn't have any experiance with the 41. Then I got my model 57 and found out how sweet 41 mag is.