Why do I want an AR-15?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by ssmith3351, Jan 3, 2010.

  1. ssmith3351

    ssmith3351 New Member

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    Hi Everyone,

    I ventured out to "the" gun store in our area and was floored by the AR builds they offer. Just about everything except Ruger's new SR-556. So my question is why do I want an AR?

    Cheap to shoot? - yes?
    Expensive to build? - without a doubt
    Fun? - without a doubt
    Wife approved? - absolutely not
    anything I'm missing?

    ...for me I'm not going to go hunting with the thing, varmints or otherwise. Just paper, cans, etc.


    So...what AR is the best to build, buy? What about Ruger's new SR-556?

    Thanks for the input.

    ~Steve
     
  2. hunter Joe

    hunter Joe New Member

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    I guess my question to you would be, why wouldn't a person want a nice black gun? I can't think of a reason not to own as many as you can afford. IMO as responsible firearm owners we need to keep them from falling into the wrong hands.

    SR-556 is a great firearm, although, a little pricey, but so are most of the piston guns, for example, the Sigs.

    You should be able to do a pretty decent build for around $700.00. Check out AR-15.com and go to the Del-Ton link.
     
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  3. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    I would have to ask your definition of "expensive" - because by comparison, I would say many other platforms are far more expensive to "build" than an entry level AR.

    JD
     
  4. ssmith3351

    ssmith3351 New Member

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    So someone educate me on what I would need to get a complete AR going and what's "best?" I see kits with everything "except a stripped lower receiver." What barrel length is good, what type of barrel, etc?

    How are these things to maintain and clean? I'm also assuming if I were to order from an online source it has to be shipped to my firearm dealer?

    ~Steve
     
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  5. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    You can build an AR. Your gunsmith has to build your bolt gun and when he does this he chargs lots of money for labor. I dunno about you but I charge myself .01 per hour in labor for working on guns. I know I am cheap but I am working for myself and I am not rich so there for I can't pay to well.

    CMMG has bargin bins for $600 they are not going to shoot he hair off of a nats nuts at 300 yards but they will shoot just fine.

    I am currently looking at an AR build or buy check out my thread.
     
  6. hunter Joe

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    Steve, if your not going to start kicking in doors and just want do some plinking, I'd go with the .556/.223 format in a 20" barrel.

    There are so many options, it's best to handle a few rifles and see what trips your trigger. The skies the limit with these firearms. Stay tuned.
     
  7. ssmith3351

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    Okay I'll stay tuned. I'm intrigued by the prospect of building my own and will need to do some research on what's needed, how to go about building one, etc.

    Going to del-ton's site I've selected a "kit" but don't understand what I'll need and how all this will go together.

    Item Name: 20" Rifle Kit
    Item Price: $794.00
    Options:
    20 Rifle Kit -Barrel:20" DTI 1x9 Chrome Lined
    20 Rifle Kit -Gas Tubes:Standard Gas Tube
    20 Rifle Kit -Handguards:Standard Handguard
    Rifle Kit / Rifle -BC:Chrome Bolt & Carrier
    Rifle Kit / Rifle -Buttstock:Magpul PRS Buttstock - Black
    Rifle Kit / Rifle -Grips:Ergo Sure Grip -Right hand
    Rifle Kit / Rifle-Carrying Handle:None
    Rifle Kit / Rifle-Flash Hiders:phantom Aggressive End Comp/Brake
    Rifle Kit / Rifle-Gas Blocks:Standard A2 Front Sight
    Rifle Kit / Rifle-Lower Parts:Standard Lower Parts
    Rifle Kit / Rifle-T Handle:Standard Charging Handle with Badger Tac Latch
    Rifle Kit / Rifle-Uppers:Flat Top Upper with T-Marks

    What am I missing with this? The bolt and mags? Is this all assembled and would it need to be shipped to my local firearm dealer to be legally sold?

    Thanks,

    ~Steve
     
  8. hunter Joe

    hunter Joe New Member

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    The kit can be shipped directly to you. You must purchased the stripped lower separate. The lower contains the firearm serial numbers and must be bought from an licensed firearm's dealer or shipped to an FFL.

    In Wisconsin you must be 21 years old to purchase a stripped lower as it can be used to build a handgun.

    Stripped lowers are going for around $150.00 give or take.

    Check out JD's personal advice thread in the AR-15 section of the forum. Lots of good stuff there. He's the man.
     
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  9. ssmith3351

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    Thanks for the info. I'm looking for *the* book on how to make one of these and what's the best of the best in parts, lowers, uppers and barrels, etc? Would I be better off just purchasing a complete AR from a local dealer? Its it safer? I'm concerned that what I would put together might not function properly, blow up on me etc.

    ~Steve
     
  10. lonyaeger

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    I had your same trepidations, but I did my own yesterday in two hours. I assembled everything but the upper and bought a Rock River M4 for about $540.

    The assembly of the lower receiver, after I purchased the kit, was a snap. Took me a couple hours and, when I build the next one, should take at least half that time. I followed JD's guide in the "Knowledge Base" and a video online. Free videos are everywhere.

    The only tools I had to buy were a $15 set of roll punches. It's amazing easy it all was to put together, no worse than a model airplane.

    Don't buy one already assembled because, as Dillinger and SloRyde told me, you learn much more about the gun in doing it yourself....plus it's cheaper...and fun.
     
  11. canebrake

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    Just nut-up and Nike it! If you're getting it for a SHTF gun you better build it! Otherwise you'll play hell finding someone to fix it after the shoe drops!
     
  12. hunter Joe

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    Steve, I believe there is a step by step assembly guide on AR 15.com. You will save money in the long run doing it yourself and you can get help on this forum just by asking. These people are really cool.
     
  13. ssmith3351

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    Excellent info guys. Greatly appreciated. I'm sure I'll be asking a ton-o-questions. Just cleared the idea with the better half and have been given a budget w/o optics of around $900.
     
  14. ssmith3351

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    What site(s) would you suggest it get the gear from?

    ~Steve
     
  15. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    ive got a SR556 i love it. its a ton of fun. its just as accurate as my dpms M4 panther. easy as hell to clean. even lower recoil than a nonpiston AR. so far after close to 1000 rounds no FTE FTF no problems at all.

    it is a little heavier than a similar AR but all the rails and such are most of the weight. the only thing i dont care for is i cant really get under the rail system to clean out dirt dust mud debris.
     
  16. Jpyle

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    I believe with that budget, some elbow grease and the assistance of JD and Tango you will soon be building a custom tack driver and gaining important first hand knowledge of how it all fits together.

    If time allows, please document your build so others, like me, can learn from your mistakes.:D Good luck
     
  17. Wheelspin

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    That right there is pure poetry, quote of the decade material!
     
  18. lonyaeger

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  19. Josey Wales '94

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    I would recommend a 7.62x39. The ammo is cheaper than the 5.56/.223. Go with a 16" barrel. Accuracy with a 7.62 is best in a fairly short barrel. Plus, if you ever found yourself in a situation that you needed the gun the 7.62 is a whole lot better (ballistically) than the 5.56. Keep it in your bedroom as a self defense weapon.
     
  20. james_black

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    :D
    If you are gonna plink or shot cans you can do the same with a ruger 10/22 and it less expensive than a AR15. Or maybe an SkS. Ammo and rifle are cheaper than a ar15. Hey a 12 or 20 gauge shotgun does the same. U can buy one under 200 and ammo is everywhere. Its up to you.


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