Why build???

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by Benning Boy, Sep 18, 2009.

  1. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    I must be missing something, but went to the local show, saw all the parts I needed to do a complete build, did the math, and saw complete Colt ARs cheaper.

    What is the upside to a build???:confused:
     
  2. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Wasn't always the case. You used to be able to build an AR for less than $700, complete.

    And you would have working knowledge of the platform. Something a lot of people don't have, and never care to acquire, because they just slap down their plastic and call it a day.

    Then, if they have problems, they ***** and moan about the manufacturer instead of knowing what to do to fix the problem...

    JD
     

  3. NGIB

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    I'll be honest BB and admit I know sh1t about ARs even though I have one. Up until 3 months ago, all I had was a bunch of handguns and I figured an EBR made sense. I have quite a few soldier buddies that are seriously into the subject and here's what they told me about why build - you get exactly what you want and nothing you don't.

    Makes sense; however, I didn't really know what I wanted as I'm a total newb with EBRs. I did ask what some essential features are and I found a rifle that met my needs and was reasonably cheap.

    All I wanted was a flattop carbine with chrome lined barrel and close to real mil-spec - and that's what I got. Mines a Rock River upper on a C3 Defense billet lower with a Rock River parts kit and 6 position stock. I picked up a detachable carry handle/sight, optics (an ACOG) and a few Magpul Pmags...
     
  4. markerdown

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    A while back you could assemble one the way you wanted with a number of vendors supplying parts cheaper. AUR weapons were costing a bit more and were "vanilla" compared to what you could add to customize yours. Then SHTF and prices went thru the roof.

    I just completed my assembly. Found it cheaper to buy a complete kit from RRA then to buy all individual parts/pieces and pay shipping. I picked up a lower and did the assembly. Pricewise, it came out at $758, meh, a little less then what I could now buy a flattop for. But, with thr RRA stuff, I got what I wanted.

    It all comes down to what you want and what you want to spend............markerdown
     
  5. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    I'm intimately familiar with the platform, I just for the life of me couldn't figure out why a stripped lower was so freakin expensive, even now.
     
  6. dog2000tj

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    Yeah, unfortunately I've seen the video. :eek: Now I want to gouge out my brain. :p
     
  7. Jo da Plumbr

    Jo da Plumbr New Member

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    I did my build because the effin state of CA has all the ARs on a ban list. But I can buy a lower from an off list manufacturer, like double star, and then build out with any parts I want. How stupid is that!!!
     
  8. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    I'm not joking when I say we were required to keep it in the sleeping bag with us.

    Break Free and an M203 tube is indistiguishable from the real thing.:D:eek:
     
  9. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    We kept them in our bags too. Did you name yours?

    With prices and everything the way they are now the only reason I would build one is because I wanted to. I would have exactly what I wanted and I would have the satisfaction of putting it together myself.
     
  10. Gus556

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    Why build?
    It's like asking why build a big block Chevy......why build an off road machine....why build a faster car....why build the ultimate lawn mower.....why build, well....anything!
    Because anybody can buy an AR. It means so much more when you can say, I BUILT this rifle. Sleeping with something allows you to know about it but building something lets you know ALL about it. You handled every single piece. At that point, you are one with your rifle. You are it's creator. It is a product of you.
    I know when I have a super tight group at a few hundred meters, it is all me. I built the rifle, I assembled the ammunition, and I shot those rounds into the 10 ring or better. I guess it boils down to a matter of craftsmanship and pride.
     
  11. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    So just so I didn't miss something, other than picking parts, there is no real advantage at this point in time to the build, other than the joy of the build itself.
     
  12. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    I just type crap out for myself now, don't I? :rolleyes:

    No, the best reason is that the person learns the ins and outs of the weapon and can then diagnose and repair an issue, should one arise.

    Then comes the choice of parts.

    Then comes the best overall product from the money.

    Then comes the satisfaction of doing it yourself....

    JD
     
  13. markerdown

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    Not so. I bought mine from Superior Arms. Best price out there. A lower is a lower is a lower. It all depends what you want. Mine is mil spec as all others are, just don't carry the high price name. As you know, the assembly is childs play for mil folks. :D..............markerdown
     
  14. Gatekeeper

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    Dang! To me that's a great price for a lower! Best bet is to ask around, see what the folks who bought them are sayin' about em'. But at that price, heck I'd buy two ;).........markerdown
     
  16. Gatekeeper

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    Thought price looked good- wanted to share the info
    Spikes lower at 50% off. Reg price $179
    Recently saw a good magazine review-lot of guys at ar-15.com love them, haven't seen any bad yet
     
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  17. crockett007

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    You were issued a sleeping bag? You must have been in the Air Force..:D
     
  18. nikotromus11

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    you're absolutely right. Building your own is not for everyone. Personally, I'd rather buy one off the shelf, make some basic modifications if needed and just enjoy the sucker.
     
  19. dog2000tj

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    I'm glad I listened to the advice on here and assembled my own. It's nothing fancy now but I can always improve it down the road. :)


    Funny, I don't remember getting the "zip lock bag" warning but figured out the need just before I got to that step. :D Only real headache I had was the trigger guard, still not happy with the way the roll pin finished. Definitely going to have to improve that. :confused:
     
  20. slowryde45

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    Excellent price on that lower, thanks Gatekeeper. ;)

    BB - true, the prices for a complete gun right now (dropping daily), versus building one yourself, it's hard to justify building.

    But one only has to read about all the crappy builds out there, regardless of brand, to make yourself want to build one yourself, if for nothing else, to at least guarantee that it will go bang. And for the newbies to the AR platform, or to those uninitiated to it, it offers the opportunity to understand what makes it work, how to put it together and take it apart, and to be able to customize or repair it in the future. You don't get that with an off the shelf gun.

    For someone who doesn't have a butt load of money to spend at one time, it allows that person to buy the pieces when they can, hopefully on sale to save a little. Sure, they could just wait until they have saved up enough to do it all at one time, too.

    Where I've found it hard to match up the $$'s, go buy a complete build, say you've spent $1300. Now, that could be a complete Colt LE6940 right now, give or take a few $$'s for background check, etc. But, after browsing the forums, you've found out that the latest Mall-Ninja free float tube is out, or the latest fashion color in Magpul UBR/CTR/PRS w/ matching MIAD grip is out, or the latest BUIS from whoever just came out, etc. Now, to keep up with all the latest in Tacticool, you would have to strip down your beloved Colt, hopefully be able to recoop some of the $$'s from the parts that came with it, and then fork out more $$'s to get all the new stuff. ;) OR....you could have just been watching/reading about all the latest in gear from the SHOT show/forums/latest Tact Mags/etc. and saved the extra money, along with the money for all the base parts (receivers, barrels, parts kits, etc). and when the time was right, bought everything to make your ultimate weapon/tool, and still would have saved some $.

    That is taking into account that if you would want to change/upgrade whatever weapon of choice you bought off the shelf, or leave it stock. Anyway, that's what the build or buy comes down to...in a nut shell. :D

    Slo