Never in my life do I recall using the safety on a 1911 with a beaver tail safety. Could someone just explain this to me?
Cannot improve upon perfection!!!if you picked up a 1911 and shot it, then you used the grip safety. the 1911 is perfect the way it was designed and therefor doesn't need a decocker.
Okay, I understand that a decocker puts a DA/SA back into DA mode, which is it's form of safety. I also understand that on a SAO, you don't have much use for it because of external safety such as the manual and beaver tail. This still doesn't explain the platform having both a manual and a beaver tail when the latter is essentially retard proof. In the rare occasion that you need to lower the hammer with a round in the chamber, wouldn't it come in handy? Like I said, can't ever recall using the safety on a 1911. Sometimes I think it's there for decorations or to annoy left handed people into buying a ambi.
beavertail is the grip safety. then there is the thumb safety, which i guess you are calling a manual safety, then there is a half cock safety some of them have also.I meant the manual safety.
thank you FMJ. like the old saying goes, " if ain't broke, don't fix it! " the 1911 ain't broke, it don't need fixing. it is perfect just the way it was designed.Cannot improve upon perfection!!!
EVERY semi auto pistol to come after 1911 is some attempt to improve on perfection....ALL have failed!
The 1911 is designed to be carried in the ready with a chambered round, the hammer cocked and the thumb safety activated (condition 1), if you have never used the thumb safety, then you haven't carried a ready 1911 in a safe manner, and you've been fortunate that you didn't get a accidental discharge, unless you carried in the Israelie Masad method (condition 4) then you wouldn't need to activate and deactivate the thumb safety.Never in my life do I recall using the safety on a 1911 with a beaver tail safety. Could someone just explain this to me?
Can I please get someone in here who thinks of JMB less like Jesus and more like a good gun designer?
if John Browning had felt like there was a need for a decocker on his pistol design, then i am pretty sure he would have put one on it. as he didn't, then IMO it isn't needed.And can people get off the terminology? It's a beaver tail safety to me because it makes up the beaver tail, it's a manual safety because I have to manually disengage it Etc.
Well...there's always some gun that breaks the norm. If you decock that weapon can you fire without racking the slide? If so, it's a DA or form of a DA weapon.That's what a modern decocker allows and that's how I think of it's use. If it doesn't allow firing after it's engaged it wouldn't take the place of a safety...A safety and a decocker to me... allows for firing not disableing the weapon.not true, the FB Radom VIS 35 is single action with a decocker