why are switchblades illegal?

Discussion in 'Other Weapons' started by ninjatoth, Jul 17, 2009.

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  1. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    here in michigan and other places,switchblades are illegal.Why?If I can possess an ak47 style semi auto rifle,why can't I possess a little knife?Open carry of handguns is legal here for people without carry permits here,but I can't even own a little spring knife?What's the deal?
     
  2. HunterMarksman338

    HunterMarksman338 New Member

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    It's Knee-Jerk legislation decision making. The lawmakers seeing too many hollywood movies. Seeing all the criminals and the bad guys with these knives as well as balisong knives and they automatically assume that these knives are designed and used by criminals and thus should be outlawed.

    Which is funny, since you can deploy a fixed blade knife faster than some autos and they can do more damage but they are perfectly legal to carry openly on your belt or strapped to your pack. At least I can do that here in California, believe it or not.
     

  3. 30-30remchester

    30-30remchester New Member

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    Huntermarksman338 is correct if in his statement. It is called the "HOLLYWOOD" law. Too many uneducated lawmakers watching too many bad Follywood movies, a dangerous combination. By the way the military can and do issue "SWITCHBLADE" knives. These type knive are actually called automatics or auto openers. Also it is still legal to own and carry an automatic knife IF you only have one arm.
     
  4. security_chick

    security_chick New Member

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    Well, maybe you can carry it around, just be careful not to get caught.
     
  5. indy_kid

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    You just need to show that you can't operate a closed knife with both hands. I have some nerve damage in my neck that affects my thumb and forefinger (blown C5/6 & C6/7). If I pushed the issue, I could probably get a waiver, but, IMHO, the thumb-openers seem fast enough to do the job.

    Are gravity-drop knives illegal? Technically not a switchblade since there's no spring power behind it. Guess it varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Which brings up the issue of be careful where you carry; what's legal in your town may be illegal 20 miles down the road.
     
  6. Shotgun Shooter

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    Spring assisted are similar, but legal. No button to press, but takes very little effort to open it. I love mine, though.

    S.S.
     
  7. HunterMarksman338

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    Well, what I've noticed in my town is that a lot of people have been ignoring this law. There are tactical stores in my town that sell auto knives and balisongs, police walk in there and they see them and don't mind. I've met two guys at the mormon church I've visited and they carried balisongs on their person clipped to their pant pocket. I've asked them about what they would do if they encountered a police officer with those on them. Well, apparently they have met up with police before but they didn't arrest them on felony charges or even give them a warning for carrying them. These dudes were decent god fearing guys and maybe thats why the officer didn't harsh on them for it.

    All I know is people are still buying balisongs and autos regardless of this stupid law and I think a lot of police think it's stupid too. If your some street punk, troublemaking, ganger-looking, thug and a police officer sees one of those on you, yeah he/she will bust you for having it. If your none of those things I've listed and the officer sees one of those knives on your person more likely they would give you a warning, not give a rat's hind end, or the worst case, just confiscate it. Remember there are some real ***hole police officers out there too. It's your discretion really.
     
  8. skullcrusher

    skullcrusher New Member

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    Just because it may be illegal to posess and use, it does not mean it is illegal to sell.

    I'm just sayin'..
     
  9. Benning Boy

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    1950's delinquent "Blackboard Jungle" cinema. Everyone is spot on, legislation came up at the same time as these movies.

    It's a stupid and confusing law, and each state has their own confusing add-ons to the Federal laws.

    That said, assisted openers are comparatively inexpensive, built stronger (as a rule), and open as quickly.
     
  10. StunGunsHQ

    StunGunsHQ New Member

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    What is the law?

    Can someone tell me exactly what the law says about Balisong knives? Are the laws governing Balisong's state to state governed or is it a Federal thing?

    I personally think that a lot of these outdated laws governing weapons and knives should be revisited and done away with. Maybe not during our currrent administrations term in office, but perhaps when we have an administration who stands behind the 2nd Ammendment more!
     
  11. HunterMarksman338

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    I believe they are illegal to carry in the entire country but not illegal to sell in the stores.
     
  12. Benning Boy

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    Blade lengths also come into play. I can own a switch with a fifteen inch blade in my state, as long as it's part of a collection and I don't carry. Ever.

    Cali allows switchblades to be carried, but the blade length is very small.

    It's all so confusing.
     
  13. opaww

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    I can own and do own a switch blade and can carry it legaly in Kentucky as long as I have my CCWP
     
  14. .22hustler

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    I believe you're wrong about the military.. When I served, it was DEFINATELY illegal to own/carry a switchblade, straight-razor, brass knuckles, or any other similiar weapon.
     
  15. c3shooter

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    Hustler, in MOST circumstances. you are corre3ct, HOWEVER-

    There is an issue (yep, issue- they give you one) pocket knife that is equipment for jumpers. Airborne and pilots that wear a chute. Current version has 2 blades, orange handle. One is about a 3 inch switchblade. The other is a rigging blade- curved in a hook, sharpened on inside of hook, made to reach back, snag a suspension line, and cut it.

    Best not find you carrying one down at the PX beer hall, anymore than you would carry your M-16 to the beer hall.

    Justification for issue of a switchblade? You can open it with one hand.
     
  16. IGETEVEN

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    Indeed, you are correct, I still have my old issued knife. As far as being illegal to carry, that only becomes an issue when and where you decide to make yourself noticeable by your actions, that would no doubt raise curiosity to someone who could make you an example with lawful consequences. ;)
     
  17. Benning Boy

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    Colonial makes the paratrooper auto. Not sure what the rules are today, but in my time in, you'd be in deep doo doo with anything beyond a pocket folder.

    I graduated basic, and this was mid-80's, at the height of Rambo fever, and immediately got a field knife. Got to my first duty station, and had it confiscated. Our B.C. claimed that the saw on the back violated the Geneva Convention, as it could cut bone.

    This was in Germany, one of those places with little crime, and switchblades were legal and abundant.

    I bought a bayonet and modified it. Best field knife I ever had.

    It has always been, and continues to be, my view that soldiers should be allowed whatever they wish as far as arms.
     
  18. IGETEVEN

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    I like the cut of your jib and your obviously acute attention to reasoning there BB, you are welcome to come play on my team anytime you like. :D

    Jack
     
  19. Gojubrian

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    Nunchuka are illegal in some states like NY and Cali as well. I don't practice with them, but as a martial artist I have many firends that do. I found them painful to learn how to use. :D

    Stupid laws.....
     
  20. c3shooter

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    Do not think FEDERAL law addresses balisongs- I know state of Nevada, they are a felony. In Mass., my Gerber Mk I is an "assault knife" because it is a 2 edged blade. In VA, illegal to sell shurikens (throwing stars).

    And for all of you that expect laws to make sense...... I am certain you will have other disappointments in life to add to that! :D