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Gunny A says That a thick tree cover is a safe backstop, gunny B says it is not,and a berm or rock ledge is neccesarry. Who's side are you on and why?
 

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I was on a camping trip when somebody was shooting on the other side of some trees. The bullets came through several times. They came rambling through the camp. We were pissed.
 

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Know your target and what's behind it...ain't nothin' behind a good berm but more berm. Rock ledge/wall? 1 word...richochet...:cool:
 

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Just how thick and deep is the thick tree cover? What's beyond it? How many rounds are being fired? What caliber?

Not nearly enough info my man. It's fine for a backyard in the boonies and doing some plinking with a .22. But maybe a company or battalion level M240 and .50 Cal shoot? Maybe not.
 

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Just how thick and deep is the thick tree cover? What's beyond it? You're many rounds are being fired? What caliber?

Not nearly enough info my man. It's fine for a backyard in the boonies and doing some plinking with a .22. But maybe a company or battalion level M240 and .50 Cal shoot? Maybe not.
The tree cover is about 250 yards deep, very thick. A hill that sometimes has livestock and farmers is behind it. Usually the guys shoot 30-30, .22 ,9mm .45
 

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There is no way I would shoot a 30-30 into trees that have people on the other side. I would think that a 30-30 should be able to travel 250 yards. People deer hunt with them out to 150 pretty easily.
 

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Got to go with the berm.
 

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Berm of dirt!

NO rock wall!!!!

250 yards of thick trees is iffy, at best, doable if nothing on the other side for some ways..but eventually the dirty turdy will have its was with the brush/foliage then there will be nothing left to stop the bullet. Also, you NEVER know what or who may be in those trees, wandering about. You KNOW theres no one wander in a berm of dirt.
 

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Berm of dirt gets my vote.
 

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I have to agree with berm.

A round trunk of a tree gives very little area to shoot at safely (if the bullets don't go through), you cannot see what is behind the tree, and ricochets have wide angles to travel.

Bales of straw or hay may be good for arrows, but not bullets.
 

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<--------Gunny C says BERM!
 

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Have your buddy go stand behind a 6" thick tree and pop off a 30/30 at it. That will settle the dispute real fast.
 

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When I lived in WA we had 22lr rounds go past the house from people shooting in the woods behind the house. A couple of rounds from a 45-70 and a 50 muzzle loader into a log convinced them to stop shooting. Woods are not a safe backstop.
 

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definatly the BERM for the win!!
 

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it is truly amazing how good a shot murphy is. he is simply amazing and is quite capable of weaving a bullet just right through 250 yards or more of trees and pick that farmer's child right off his tricycle 1000yards away....

berm of dirt
 
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