Who Makes Good Mags?

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by winch, Aug 5, 2012.

  1. winch

    winch New Member

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    I am new to 1911's. I have a RIA 1911A1, basic GI model, single stack. The 7 round factory mag works fine, but the 8 round aftermarket mag hangs up and FTF. I'm pretty sure it's not the gun since it only happens with the 8 round mag.

    I am still in the break in mode....maybe 200 rounds down the pipe.

    Who makes a good 1911 mag and does it matter whether you go 7 or 8 shot?

    Thanks in advance.

    Winch
     
  2. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Canebrake is our resident 1911 guru, and he swears by Tripp research (no, I'm not affiliated). I hope he stops in to give you the rundown on them, some really good info.
     

  3. kytowboater

    kytowboater Active Member

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    I use Wilson combat mags in a 3.5 ria. Never an issue. As mentioned above the guru says the Tripp mags are amazing. I still have yet to order any.
     
  4. KeysKelly

    KeysKelly New Member

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    I'll cast another vote for Wilson. I use them in both my Kimber and Springfield 1911's.

    A friend of mine has an Ed Brown and he even likes the Wilson mags over the high dollar Ed Brown.
     
  5. cuba

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    Most do not know that there are three 1911 magazine types that will produce defferent results.

    The original magazine that was developed to function in the GI 1911 was a 7 round with tapered feed lip, in this configuration the rim of the cartridge would rise up as it was being stripped of the magazine by the slide allowing for a steeper trajectory and facilitating a quicker grab by the extractor, a very reliable design with FMJ 230 gr hard ball ammo.

    In the middle of the 20th century the Hensley & Gibbs #68 projectile was introduced and thrown into the mix by bulls eye shooters and was dubbed the wadcutter, being a shorter cartridge with wider shoulders to cut wider holes in paper, the barrels throat need it to be modified by way of widening and also the magazine feed lip configuration was modified by way of shortening the feed lips to allow a quicker release and making the lips parallel to each other producing a lower projectile trajectory that make full contact with the feed ramp instead of a glancing impact as the tapered feed lip type.

    In the 60's Colt had a stock pile of 7 round tapered lip magazine and to stay in the game and up with the time decided to modify them by shortening the lips to allow for a quick release while maintaining the tried and true integrity and attributes of the tapered feed lip, thous the hybrid feed lip magazine was born, a magazine that would raise the cartridge under the extractor at a steeper trajectory with the benefits of a quick release of the wadcutter, accommodating a wide array of cartridge lengths the best of both worlds.

    The magazine on the left is the tapered feed lip hard ball type that is still available by some manufactures.
    The magazine in the center is the hybrid feed lip that is offered by Colt and Checkmate Industries.
    The magazine on the right is the straight feed lip quick release type that is included with most modern 1911
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    Steeper trajectory hybrid magazine
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    Lower trajectory wadcutter magazine
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    shoot safe, shoot straight and have fun :)
     
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  6. LongBaller71

    LongBaller71 New Member

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    Nice post, Cuba!


    I've had success with my metalform and Chip McCormick mags. They have all performed flawlessly thus far.

    One of these days I'll have to break down and buy a couple Tripps to try them out.
     
  7. cuba

    cuba New Member

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    Tripps makes one of the highest quality magazine in the industry, though I've personally never inspected one I believe that the feed lip configuration is of the wadcutter type, and the follower is manufactured by Checkmate Industries.

    shoot safe, shoot straight, and have fun
     
  8. MrWray

    MrWray New Member

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    I use 8rd Wilson Combat Elite Tactical Mags and 47Ds, they have been flawless.
     
  9. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    For years I carried 47D's and never had any problems. As mentioned Canebrake turned me onto the Tripps' Cobra mags and those are all I stock now as I truly believe they were blueprint designed and built with the functioning 1911 in mind.

    JD
     
  10. gollygee

    gollygee New Member

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    Tripp Research, Wilson Combat & Check Mate with Hybrid Lips; in that order.

    But, it seems that all the Philipine made 1911s can have a problem with 8 round mags, for some reason, so you may find that your RIA will work better with the above brand mags in 7 round, also.

    To add to that, all 3 of the ACT mags which would not work in my American Classics or Rock Island, work fine in my Colt & Kimber. So I don't believe the problem is solely with the magazine.
     
  11. Tripps aren't magic - they'e good magazines just like Wilson ETM's and Chip McCormick. In 10 round magazines, the Chip McCormick is a better design than the Tripp or Wilson.
     
  12. MrWray

    MrWray New Member

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    My Armscor 1911 eats everything, the 8rd mags are all i use, never had a problem.
     
  13. gollygee

    gollygee New Member

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    Sounds like you got a good'n. Three American Classics & one Rock Island wouldn't feed with any 8 round mag until I got a Check Mate Hybrid & a couple Wilsons.
     
  14. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i use the either the Wilson Combats or the Chip McCormack mags. i relegate all the OEM mags for range use only. in the American Classic and the RIA, the biggest flaw in their pistols are the mags. but as that i always buy more mags anyways, this is hardly of concern to me.
     
  15. MrWray

    MrWray New Member

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    Well thats with Wilsons, the factory mag that came with mine was junk. :)
     
  16. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Please read this;

    http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f57/ruger-sr1911-69886/#post898730
     
  17. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    I respectfully disagree with your assumption.


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    From L to R; Tripp Cobra, Wilson 47DOXB, Wilson ETM 500B, Tripp Cobra

    Find the weld on the Tripp.

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    From L to R; Wilson 47DOXB, Wilson ETM 500B, Tripp Cobra

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    Notice the fluid stampings of the Tripp mag on the left and right. The .45 case head sits square against the back wall of the Tripp mag, the Wilson is rounded and forces the round forward when it presents for stripping. AND, the Tripp mag feed lips are CNC finished.

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    This photo shows the slide stop interface. The Tripp mag on the bottom uses a hybrid follower with a metal interface where the Wilson on top uses a poly follower interface. The Wilson shows witness-marks where the slide stop engages the mag when empty. This mag is six months old and speaks volumes as to this critical area.

    As a retired engineer, this is how my mind works while looking at new products. When a company makes guns and mags that go into them, the mag becomes an area where they can cut production costs. When the company only makes mags, their entire R&D budget is used on mags. Think about that!

    Tripp Research Gen II Cobra Magazines
     
  18. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    ^^ Great info cuba but let me speak to the Tripp product.

    My references will be made to the two currently offered Tripp Research Gen II Cobra Mags below;

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    ..............^ The 7R-45-RO and the 8R-45-RG ^

    What you show above are classic easily identifiable steps but the truth is everybody tweaks theirs a little different from the amount of taper, to the release point, and even the internal radius of the feed lips. Tripp's Gen I tubes all had ".45" feedlips. The Gen II mags are somewhere between the middle hybrid and the one on the right.

    Tripp further shorten the 10mm feedlips from the stock length based on customer feedback. They listen to their customers and they said the shortened feedlips work better.
     
  19. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    For the record, Tripp would classify their Cobra Gen II as a straight feedlip design though there is a minor taper and the internal radius is not quite standard.

    The Tripp hybrid follower is 100% Texas made.
     
  20. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    I need to make my position as clear as possible on my preference of the Tripp Gen II Cobra.

    I AM NOT BASHING anyone's magazine choice. (Wray this is NOT aimed at you.)

    My preference for Tripp mags is based on my 35 years as a mechanical engineer and my experience with said mags.

    McCormick, Wilson, Mec-Gar, Colt and many other marks make a fine 1911 magazine. When I compare the Gen II to any of them, there is little doubt the Tripp's are a cut above all I've mentioned.

    There is no real price difference with other hi-end mags and I find that telling because Tripp uses a proprietary spring that lasts on average 2-3 times longer than any music wire spring found in all the Tripp competitor's mags.

    I have done my homework and I will not carry any other mag than Tripp. And for all those other "test" mags I have accumulated, they have been designated for range use. Oh, by the way, Tripp makes great Upgrade Kits for those sub-standard mag tubes.