Who else enjoys Lee-Enfields?

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by Laufer, Jul 27, 2009.

  1. Laufer

    Laufer New Member

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    Bought my first (good #5) in May from "Joesalter", and Saturday a 'mixmaster' #4 with a really shiny, bright bore at the Batesville, MS gun show.
    Very satisfied with both and even the #4 was probably built in England but it is not inscribed anywhere, and some numbers only partly legible after the FTR process in '48 or '49.

    Were British parts often mixed after the war with those from the Commonwealth, or even with some Savage #4 parts?
     
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  2. c3shooter

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    have a SMLE from 1915, and a Mk 4 from 1944. Enjoy shooting both- scored a few thousand rounds of the Greek .303 just before it started drying up.

    Some good basic info over at surplusrifle.com. The numbers etched over- you may be seeing what is called a "forced match". When a gun has been thru an arsenal rebuild, parts get shuffled. Some parts (bolt in particular) should stay in the right gun (headspace) so bolt may get an "electric pencil" revision to serial number- and guns imported into the US now must be stamped with name/ address of importer, a UNIQUE serial number (not all military serial numbers were unique- some repeated)

    Picked up a sword bayonet for my SMLE from Southern Ohio Gun- pretty fair shape, $29. Don't know if they still have them.
     

  3. Hawg

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    I had a #1 MKIII BSA, 1916 with a slash through the original numbers and new ones added. Funny thing is the old numbers matched too. I had the gun for over 20 years and never even shot a full box through it. Sold it last year with a sheathed Wilkinson bayo for 175.00.
     
  4. Laufer

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    Thanks for your interesting comments.
    These LEs have become much more interesting than my Mosin Nagant 44, though it is really fun to shoot and cheap ammo is available, but the LE is my only combat rifle of 'the west'.

    And the LEs have a much more widespread history around the vast British Empire/Commonwealth. Too bad about so little surplus ammo available at decent prices.
     
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  5. supergus

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    Yup, I love 'em! Picked this one up at a gun show for $260 with case AND matching #'s:D
    [​IMG]
     
  6. Last Crow

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    My only Enfield is a 2A1 made by the Rifle Factory Ishapore in 1965. It is chambered for the 7.62 X 51 NATO and has a 12 round box magazine. I bought the rifle in 1997 from a local gun store for $99.97.
    I’ve only fired the rifle once. I felt sorry for the Indians who had to use this rifle. It has a good kick and weighs over 10 lbs unloaded.
     
  7. Laufer

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    supergus: The wood and metal condition are excellent. You might be in luck in NH, if "joesalter" allows people to see his collection in person, and what a selection on his website. Many of the items are shipped from his Canadian business to the NH location.

    Finally noticed the numbers on my bolt which match the left butt socket (receiver) numbers. My hand guard pieces are dark and the mag numbers do not match, but what a rifle...

    Aren't we fortunate that more people have not discovered what one small town MS store owner called "antiques"!
    Let's be grateful that so many are chasing plastic ARs and the elusive Mosin Nagant 44s.

    supergus: Who built your foxy babe?
     
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  8. supergus

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    Foxy Babe??? you mean the gun or the car?
     
  9. karlsgunbunker

    karlsgunbunker New Member

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    I have 4 and I'm working on getting no 5.
    2 - Savage enfields
    1 - Longbranch
    1 - Fazerkly

    I'm working a trade for a No5 Jungle carbine.

    these things are almost as addictive as my Mosins.
     
  10. Laufer

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    supergus:
    Your car also looks like a nice classic babe-probably built when I was in the last year of high school ('73).

    Karls:
    Until last April, MNs seemed like the best milsurp rifles, but it must be the cheap surplus ammo prices which keep them in the limelight.
     
  11. supergus

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    Actually, the '69 on my avatar is identical in specs to my '69 Chevelle SS, just a different color.:D
     
  12. Laufer

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    Supergun: "Roger that".

    Pardon me if this is a nosy question, but do owners of your type/quality of LE often ask only about $250 for those at gun shows, where there were a few other LEs competing for limited buyers etc?

    Or did you trade something for it, maybe trade plus some cash? My first gun show was August '08, which means being a very late-starter.
    Regret not having discovered LEs (especially with the vanishing ammo) much sooner, despite the cheap prices for MNs and their surplus ammo. I just traded two sealed cans with 740 rds. of Bulgarian x54R + cash for 750 rds. of POF in the original black sealed can. One ftf in the first 31 rounds, only two very slight 'click-bangs'. "Insurgent bricks" don't care.
     
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  13. supergus

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    Personally, I found a vendor selling it for $275 and I got him down to $260 plus a sling and case.
     
  14. sputnik1988

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    I have a No.4 Mk1 Fazakerley, all matching numbers, in excellent condition, there are pics of it all over here, but my phone won't let me post any right now

    The only reason that they arent more addictive is the prohibitive costs of ammunition. :(
     
  15. batjka

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    I love my Long Lee Metford. It keyholes with factory ammo. A gentleman from the Cast Boolits forum was extremely nice in sending me some. 316 bullets but I'm yet to load them. With two small children it's a challenge to get out to the rifle range. I hope to find a break sometime soon, though.
     
  16. 303tom

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    Enfields ? I have a few, I mean like check out my avatar..............
     
  17. zaitsev44

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    I have a beautifully worn '44 Fazakerly, the magazine has a shlash through the original numbers and has 4 (or 5 I can't remeber) stars on the magazine. But it's a beauty, the only bad thing is that I don't have a screwdriver long enough to take off the buttstock. And there's service grease in every crack and crevice.
     
  18. Trez

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    Ive been curious about a Enfield.. What ones had the stock go all the way to the end of the muzzle? Like this?
    [​IMG]

    (Stole pic from 303tom) :)
     
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  19. zaitsev44

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    The No1 and No3