who can find a cheaper "complete" upper

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by Nathantc, Sep 24, 2011.

  1. Nathantc

    Nathantc New Member

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    So far I found this
    !!! - DPMS Panther A3 Lite-16 Complete Upper Receiver- 5.56 NATO - Surplus Ammo
    $379

    hell I will even settle for used if I could get it cheaper, now IM talking about COMPLETE, another words bolt carrier group and charging handle

    Please don't preach about the u get what u pay for thing. IM just building a simple blasting/bumpfire iron sights only light as possible M4.

    I already put big money in one. Now IM going cheap on the other

    This is what I do have
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    And this is what IM building, I already have the lower, but IM getting the stock, and handguards soon. I do want it to have an A2 upper but Ill settle for any thing being as I have a spare A2 upper.
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  2. Nathantc

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    by the way, how do u like the stubby pmag, 5rd mag.

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  3. mjkeat

    mjkeat New Member

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    Palmetto State Armory has good uppers. Most would say that they are much better than the DPMS. They come complete and are mil-spec.
     
  4. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    No comment, otherwise I'll start preaching! :p
     
  5. Nathantc

    Nathantc New Member

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    they dont have any uppers priced lower than $379...... except the .22lr uppers

    but thanks now i have a new link stored
     
  6. TacticalPrecision

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    Really the definition of "cheap" is variable. Because if you're going to spend 400 bucks on that, then later on spend another 200-300 on upgrades to it you might want so spend a little extra and buy one that's already equipped with a free float quadrail and so forth.

    if you head over to the gun broker and shop around a bit you can get some decent deals on quality parts. There is a guy that builds full YHM stuff and his are usually "buy now" at 485, can also find some of the other manufacturers stuff there for pretty decent prices(sometimes) since it's bidding you can get lucky, but sometimes you can't.

    Also Model 1 Sales, I don't use them because I am picky and build most of my stuff but you might find them interesting.
     
  7. Nathantc

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    ok i just got lucky
    i got an A2 upper for $20
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    so now all i need is a complete barrel assembly, BCG, and CH on the cheap.
    i really want a pencil/lightweight barrel in 14.5" or 16"
     
  8. Nathantc

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    Not modding any thing, I want a simple cheap M4/A2 that light and useful just like this pic, no free float, or over priced mod stock, no custom grip, and a simple fixed carry handle with irons only.

    Just like this, stock, handguards, A2 upper, and pencil barrel.
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  9. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Very nice, clean looking stick Nathantc. :cool:
     
  10. Nathantc

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  11. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    Nothing derogatory, N, it was a complement. It just means rifle, in an approving way.

    And BTW, this sounds like a nice project now. I winced when I first saw your thread because we see new guys coming in saying they want the "cheapest" then they spend a fortune upgrading a turd as TacticalPrecision was saying more tactfully.
     
  12. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    [​IMG] dude. :rolleyes:
     
  13. Nathantc

    Nathantc New Member

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    LOL yeah, I got my expensive rifle, and I baby the hell out of it two, its never had more than 5rds thew it in less than a 5min period of time. So I never heat the barrel or any other parts.

    Now I want a cheap run and gun irons only bumpfireing toy, kinda like an AK, but I want an AR at an AK price point.

    I know it may seem silly but I want an AR that I can put on the handle bar rack of a 4-wheeler and not worry about scratches or hurting the sites.

    So a simple light weight M4 with A2 sight and the stock and forearm I have in the pic would be great. I like that short light fixed stock better cause it can't rattle, and its one less moving part to break. I like the hand guards cause of the look, vents, and slim profile.

    Every rifle I build has a purpose, this one I am building will be my knock around fun gun. The A2 set up is hard to beat. I could go optics but if I drop it or it gets banged around it my not be on point as where the irons are the best in dependability.

    Most guys call a 10-15lbs rifle tactical, not me. If u put a bunch of crap on a good rifle, u now had a gadget toy. It may work for u in "call of duty" but in the real world this set up IM building with trijicon night sights is as tactical as u will ever need, although a tac light could help but is not needed.
     
  14. TunaFisherman

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    you have a expensive AR that you baby?...what do you mean by expensive?
    Why not take it out and really use it?
    These guns are not made of glass. They are designed for rough use.
    If I was building a cheap rifle, I would still spend 800 to 1000 at least.

    Dont get bent, I am just asking a question :)

    Maybe what I mean is you can still do all the things you listed with a quality rifle and not spend more money on the cheap setup because you find out your "cheap" gun doesnt perform the way you like
     
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  15. Nathantc

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    Maybe cause my expensive one weighs in around 18lbs and is set up for accuracy, not rapid fire.

    My very first AR was a cmmg upper on a plumcrazy lower and was cheap as hell. Now cmmg thinks there colt or something and has doubled there prices.

    It was reliable but I sold it to get an AK74 of my choosing. Now I want another cheap rifle that just goes bang when I pull the trigger and can get atleast 3"or less at 100yards.

    When it come to ar's there are far to many gear queers out there who think that the name stamped on it makes a difference, or that $500 of extra crap attached makes it a better rifle.

    Mil spec, lower, upper, BCG, and chamber and u don't need much else. Surplus Ammo & Arms sell stripped milspec lowers for $80, there are many other Mil spec lowers out there that are 3 and 4 times that much just due to a name.

    IM only stating a fact,,,,, u do not need to spend more than $600 for a dependable AR, if u want pretty or special coatings and finishes, or maybe extra crap then sure spend away.

    The AR that I have finished I spent more in just the lower than I will on this whole rifle. This rifle will stay basic and simple and I know it will function as intended.
     
  16. TunaFisherman

    TunaFisherman New Member

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    ok. Good answer.
    So I wasted $1100 on my Colt SP6920? Its my truck gun so I dont baby it

    You can build a Mil Spec rifle for $600 or less? Please post the info. I plan on building my next AR and have been doing research on prices and reliability. Any help would be appreciated thanks

    I like to run my rifles "clean" and with quality gear. I wouldnt call my self a gear queer lol

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  17. Nathantc

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    Not saying its a waste, but what does it do that that a $650 spikes of the same set up wouldn't do.

    I was only stating that a lesser priced set up is what IM lookng for and that it will do every bit of what I want it to. Just don't see the point.

    I spent what I did on my American Spirit Arms set up due to the out of the box 1/2moa guarantee for the life of the rifle/barrel, not to mention the lifetime warrantee. Basically I got a purpose built rifle and modded to my liking.

    Now IM only looking for simple fun, no extra or fancy parts. Just like I stated. Light, dependable, and simple.
     
  18. TacticalPrecision

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    If that's the case why build at all? There was a bushmaster brand new at the last gunshow I went to for 700 bucks, could probably find a lower quality for less than that even
     
  19. TunaFisherman

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    I know they all go bang.
    I have looked at some cheaper rifles and it almost seemed they were pressed from pot metal vs. cold hard steel.
    Are you seeing a difference on fit and finish using the lower price stuff?

    I would like to see your and hear about your finished rifle after the build is done.

    I knew that buying the Colt I have a true Mil Spec battle proven rifle. And for $1100 total and 3 30rnd Pmags thrown in it was a great deal

    The next one I can experiment with.