White House says there are 19 Executive Orders for gun control

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by downsouth, Jan 15, 2013.

  1. robertusa123

    robertusa123 New Member

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    only 19 love how the artical says its mostly about inforceing current law whial he sing other orders saying to inoure current laws
     

  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    The article does NOT say 19 Executive ORDERS. Executive ACTIONS are a different matter. And yes, ACTIONS can include things such as enforcing laws already on the books (Federal prosecution where Federal & state laws are both broken, such as felon in possession, etc)
     
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  3. downsouth

    downsouth New Member

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    So what is the differance between an order and an action ?
     
  4. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    An executive action is just enforcing current law. Like if obama was to actually enforce immigration law that would be executive action. What he is doing in regards to immigration law is executive inaction.

    So executive action in regards to firearms would simply be enforcing current federal law.
     
  5. c3shooter

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    An executive action could be directing the Center For Disease Control (CDC) to study and advise the FBI on means of seeing that persons adjudged mentally incompetent ACTUALLY get entred into the NICS database. It could be directing the Dept of Justice to prosecute violations of existing Federal Law. It could be directing the ATF to offer training to state law enforcement on gun laws. It could be creating a panel to study violence in movies (yeah- like THAT is going to happen!)

    There IS a LARGE difference- was not trying to nitpick you- they are 2 different things.

    Like lightning and lightning bug.
     
  6. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    I now they were talking on Sirius Talk radio last night on the David Webb show. They actually had the 19 actions, granted I was driving and did not have pen and paper to write them down.
     
  7. StainlessSteel215

    StainlessSteel215 New Member

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    Unbelievable.
    All eyes on NY today as they are first to set the stage. 7 round mag limits is really boiling my blood, there are so many problems with this proposal that could literally screw everyone

    Here we go....
     
  8. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Lety's see what the SCOTUS says about that.
     
  9. CrazedJava

    CrazedJava New Member

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    I expect long-term it will get overturned, but it will be a long battle. NY will be even more hostile to gun owners in the years between.
     
  10. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 New Member

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    Let them come as we know they are going to do anyway. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!
     
  11. NewDemocraticParty2014

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    Executive order:
    United States Presidents issue executive orders to help officers and agencies of the executive branch manage the operations within the federal government itself. Executive orders have the full force of law, since issuances are typically made in pursuance of certain Acts of Congress, some of which specifically delegate to the President some degree of discretionary power (delegated legislation), or are believed to take authority from a power granted directly to the Executive by the Constitution. However, these perceived justifications cited by Presidents when authoring Executive Orders have come under criticism for exceeding executive authority; at various times throughout U.S. history, challenges to the legal validity or justification for an order have resulted in legal proceedings.

    In other countries, similar edicts may be known as decrees, or orders in council.
     
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  12. CaseyChadwell

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    I don't know who's side you're on here, but you seem to be intelligent. Would you mind giving us your opinion on the debate of gun control?
     
  13. NewDemocraticParty2014

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    Thought I'd help out since no one could fully explain the definition of Ex orders vs Ex action which I conclude is basically the same.
     
  14. CaseyChadwell

    CaseyChadwell New Member

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    Again, would you mind chiming In on the gun control debate? And if you don't mind me asking, are u getting your information from online or are you some sort of lawyer or politician?
     
  15. NewDemocraticParty2014

    NewDemocraticParty2014 New Member

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    I'm not one for online bickering.

    Just information from Wiki.
     
  16. CaseyChadwell

    CaseyChadwell New Member

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    A sensible debate either online or in person is not bickering sir. Your answers are leading me to believe that you are here to stir fecal matter and I am asking you not to do that. I am assuming that bc of the fact that you apparently just joined our little forum and are only commenting in the legal threads. If you have a stance on gun control, I would love to hear it, if you're here to stir crap up, please don't. Its not good for my blood pressure hearing communist tell me what is best for my country and heari g the anti gun crowd tell me I don't need something that I have a right to own without first hearing my side if things as well. Thank you for joining our site, feel free to introduce yourself to US in the introduction section. Have a wonderfully blessed day.
     
  17. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    It seems everyday another Left Wing AntiGun Liberal is given a voice on this forum?:confused:
     
  18. vincent

    vincent New Member

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    Yep, gets deep in here sometimes...especially lately...
     
  19. CrazedJava

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    America. Freedom of Speech. Debate calmly and rationally so you can determine if they truly are someone willing to hear the other side and possibly change their mind, listen and calmly agree to disagree, or determine if they are indeed a wingnut.