White House Determines Gun Control Executive Action Can Be Taken!

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by HockaLouis, Jan 9, 2013.

  1. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    White House States Gun Control Via Executive Order Can Be Enacted!

    Are these the most chilling words you've recently read? Following a day of Who's-Who in anti-gun emotion provoking from The Brady Campaign to actual victims of evil people...

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Joe Biden on Wednesday heard personal stories of gun violence from representatives of victims groups and gun-safety organizations as he drafts the Obama administration's response to the shooting at a Connecticut elementary school. He pledged that action would be taken.

    "I want to make it clear that we are not going to get caught up in the notion (that) unless we can do everything we're going to do nothing," Biden said. "It's critically important (that) we act."

    The meeting was part of a series Biden is holding this week to build consensus around proposals to curb gun violence after the Dec. 14 shooting in Newtown, Conn. Twenty school children were killed.

    The Huffington Post has obtained additional details about the meeting from a White House Pool Report. Biden, according to the report, explained that "the president IS going to act." The White House has determined that "executive action can be taken," stated the Vice President. The specifics of that action have not yet been settled.
     
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  2. TexasGunner

    TexasGunner New Member

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    That makes me sick.....




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  3. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    How about F**k them?
     
  4. TexasGunner

    TexasGunner New Member

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    Um yeah! I believe that's the most concise way to put it.
     
  5. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    the best ammo we have is to make sure the NRA-ILA has enough money for the court battles challenging these orders.
     
  6. Jpyle

    Jpyle New Member

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    Too bad the White House is not the final authority on what it's authority is.

    We will have to wait and see what Congress and SCOTUS has to say about this. As I have said in the past Boehner and McConnell should be on TV announcing immediate impeachment proceedings if the President knowingly signs an executive order that is beyond his Constitutional authority and he in effect willfully violates his oath of office.
     
  7. M1Anut

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    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated

    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

    You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

    The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson. With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'. During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!

    SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
    SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE. SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

    It's time to speak loud before they try to silence and disarm us.
    You're not imagining it, history shows that governments always manipulate tragedies to attempt to disarm the people
     
  8. carbon15man

    carbon15man New Member

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    Finally somebody gets it now lets do something about it and say the is our country and were taking it back
     
  9. John_Deer

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    I don't see Obama issuing any executive orders beyond enhancing background checks. He knows the law and will push it right to the edge to have his way. Really, the odds are very good nothing beyond an enhanced background check system is going to happen.

    In times of war or a national emergency a president can issue illegal executive orders because congress is going to make the order law in a few days. Gun control is not a national emergency.

    The latest gun control debate is just a distraction so we don't notice they are going to throw us under the bus again. They will pass a couple feel good laws to look like they are doing something other than throwing us under the bus.
     
  10. carbon15man

    carbon15man New Member

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    I hope you don't really believe that. They want to disarm you look at his actions and look at everything else goin on in the world today with china saying use this to disarm ur ppl come on man don't be a puppet
     
  11. drvsafe

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    I don't think an executive order can be used to change the Constitution. I may be wrong, but I don't believe he has that broad of a power. If anything, he can evoke an executive order towards an actual law that is already on the books or similar, but correct me if I'm wrong...

    Plus if such an action were taken can't congress overturn it?

    I haven't seen any clear cut actions (yet), only posturing and speaking.
     
  12. Warrior1256

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    Everyone who can afford to do so should send an emergency contrabution to the NRA-ILA so that they will have what they need to fight this.
     
  13. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Just how would you propose that that be done?
     
  14. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The first part of the post is well attributed.

    The second part, the part that has you upset, is not.

    Can you say propaganda?
     
  15. dog2000tj

    dog2000tj New Member

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    a couple thousand rounds of 5.56Nato won't hurt either :cool:
     
  16. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    Ignoring Chainfire, a Leftist troll here who is always out of his league and clearly doesn't understand the language well enough to use "attributed"...

    Folks, don't be naive. The rule of law has been lost by and large. What Congress or SCOTUS should or can do is almost irrelevant. Hussein Obama already should have been impeached. Crickets... And if they are relevant checks and balances what makes you think they won't all act unconstitutionally? They already have, often!

    This was a trial balloon at best: to test reactions. More likely it was the starting bell of the fight -- Hussein Obama has made up his mind, and the other Marxists and media have rallied to him since. The latter is fairly obvious IMO.
     
  17. dogwalk

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    Executive Order

    Executive order can not trump the Constitution. That was settled in Roe -Wade years ago. But I'll admit, he will try but the Supreme Court will not allow it. DOGWALK
     
  18. Daoust_Nat

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    I see that as exactly what he is going to do. He will then hope the SCOTUS will have given him an opportunity to change the line up, and defeat the sure NRA-ILA court challange. If it does not work, he will say, "hey people, I tried and the dastardly NRA and crooked Supreme Court beat me!" However, it may take three years for that to happen.

    Setting him up for another challange in his third term, or Michelle in her first term to take another run at it.

    Remember, Emporer Obummer is not a good thing for us working people.
     
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  19. TankTop

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    I'm sure they have a majority of the lawyers at the Justice Department looking over every piece of our current gun laws. They may look for an obscure part, "reinterpret" it then issue an executive order for a more rigorous enforcement. He won't attempt to dictate a new law, he is too smart for that. At least that is my opinion, I seriously doubt that they will go for an immediate gun grab, they need to boil the frog slowly.
     
  20. Jpyle

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    They have been boiling the frog since the 1930s.