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I'm a revolver, 1911 and carbon steel knife kind of guy, not into modern sinthetic stuff. However, I've been wondering about polymer framed guns for a while.

This would just be an addition to my collection with no particular purpose in mind, I might use it for IPSC (production), but it's mostly to see what all the fuss is about. :)

Glocks are out of the question, they don't feel right in my hand and I don't like them. My choices are also a bit narrower than what you can find in the US, since I'm in Argentina.

Anyway, I'm considering a S&W M&P, Steyr M9 and I might also take a look at some Rugers. Which one would you guys pick? I'm going with 9mm since I already have a .45 and a .357 for protection, this would be a "fun" gun (although I might end up carrying it if I really like it).

I've got no experience with either of these guns, and there aren't any ranges where I can rent one to try out (they only have Glocks for rent). I'm particularly interested in any info about the trigger pull on these guns.
 

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I know it wasn't on your list but take a good look at Springfield's XD and XDM. The XD comes in a number of configuratoins in 9mm, 3" sub compact, 4" and 5". The M only comes in 5" but it does have a match grade barrel, reworked trigger and removable back strap. I have 2 XD's and I love them both!
 

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Which Tupperware??

That's like asking which bat would you like me to beat you with? :D

The fuss is that the weapons can be manhandled by the masses and will perform without all that messy maintanence and upkeep. The fuss is that the weapons can be had for half the price of a regular production weapon because of space age plastics.

The fuss is that Renny Harlin put that God Damn weapon in Die Hard II with the stupid line "It's a porcelin gun, made in Germany, designed to slip through metal detectors". I hate you Renny Harlin!! :mad:

The trigger pull on Glocks, XD's and even my H & K USP Tactical are all extremely long and seems painfully inadequate to me now that I am a 1911 man.

Your mileage may vary, but I would spend the money on more ammo - and maybe some body armor the way things have been looking lately...

Good luck in the search...

JD
 

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I like the XD because of the feel of the grip frame. The XD is also more lefty friendly. The M&P has gotten some rave reviews. A lot of officers here are trading in their Glocks for M&P's. I too, hate the Glock "feel" I can shoot them but do not like them.
 

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if you cant get a glock, get an XD.
 

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I've got a few buddies that are raving about the new XDms. They're LE only in Cali though, so I've got to wait for one of them to pick one up before I can see what the big deal is.

I might have to go get my A of J and hook up with the local SAR, just so I can be considered LE. Most of Cali's draconian laws don't apply to LE personnel.
 

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Don't hold back, JD, tell me what you really think! :D I agree with you on most points, I'm just thinking about this gun as a fun thing to have. There aren't that many options in Argentina (hell, I don't think there's a single SA 9mm pistol for sale, at least new). Plus I plan to start shooting IPSC matches in the production category and SA guns aren't allowed, for some reason.


Guys, I didn't include the XD because I can't get them in Argentina. I'm stuck with the M&P, Steyr M9 or one of the polymer Rugers (can't remember the model name).


I might end up getting another CZ 75 and forgetting all about plastic.
 

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Don't hold back, JD, tell me what you really think! :D I agree with you on most points,
Don't I always? I thought you guys liked that. I guess I could lie to you all the time instead. :cool:

I might end up getting another CZ 75 and forgetting all about plastic.
An EXCELLENT Idea....
 

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Don't hold back, JD, tell me what you really think! :D I agree with you on most points, I'm just thinking about this gun as a fun thing to have. There aren't that many options in Argentina (hell, I don't think there's a single SA 9mm pistol for sale, at least new). Plus I plan to start shooting IPSC matches in the production category and SA guns aren't allowed, for some reason.


Guys, I didn't include the XD because I can't get them in Argentina. I'm stuck with the M&P, Steyr M9 or one of the polymer Rugers (can't remember the model name).


I might end up getting another CZ 75 and forgetting all about plastic.
The Steyrs are good pieces.
 

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I'd have to recommend an XD. I owned one and liked it very much. I like the XD better than the Glock. Also, the new XDM in 9mm has a 19 round magazine which still amazes me.
 

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I really do think in the future the main powerhouses of the polymer world will be the Springfield XD and the Smith and Wesson M&P series.
 

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I would suggest an M&P. I have found it to be a fantastic firearm.

If you have extra money just sitting around, I would buy a lot of ammo instead of a polymer frame handgun.
 

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I'm a revolver, 1911 and carbon steel knife kind of guy, not into modern sinthetic stuff. However, I've been wondering about polymer framed guns for a while.

This would just be an addition to my collection with no particular purpose in mind, I might use it for IPSC (production), but it's mostly to see what all the fuss is about. :)

Glocks are out of the question, they don't feel right in my hand and I don't like them. My choices are also a bit narrower than what you can find in the US, since I'm in Argentina.

Anyway, I'm considering a S&W M&P, Steyr M9 and I might also take a look at some Rugers. Which one would you guys pick? I'm going with 9mm since I already have a .45 and a .357 for protection, this would be a "fun" gun (although I might end up carrying it if I really like it).

I've got no experience with either of these guns, and there aren't any ranges where I can rent one to try out (they only have Glocks for rent). I'm particularly interested in any info about the trigger pull on these guns.
My first choice would be the Ruger P95. It's the best 9mm Ruger makes in a polymer gun. The SR9 is still unproven at this point but the P95 is as good as the best of the poly guns. And a P95 is the ONLY handgun I would take out of the box, load and carry without ever having shot it...I had an old P95 that at one session I put a thousand rounds of mixed ammo. Everything from 88 gr submachine gun ammo to 158 gr subsonic and lead reloads and WWII ball surplus and it was 100% FLAWLESS...I'm not a fan of plastic guns, but it would be my first choice in one.
 

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Guys, I can't get an XD in Argentina. Otherwise I'd consider it.

The P95 does look interesting, and I've had good experiences with Ruger products in the past.

I'll stop by a few gun shops tomorrow after work and see which one fits my hands better.
 

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Guys, I can't get an XD in Argentina. Otherwise I'd consider it.

The P95 does look interesting, and I've had good experiences with Ruger products in the past.

I'll stop by a few gun shops tomorrow after work and see which one fits my hands better.
If you can't get the Springfield XD, then go get the HS2000 (Hrvatski Samokres) The Croatian pistol made by HS Produkt... It's the same gun from the same factory.
 

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I learned something new today.

The HS2000 (aka XD's father)

 

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Since you don't have access to XD(m), my choice would be the Smith M&P. I have only seen one Steyr pistol, and I would qualify it as a compact in my book, not necessarily something I want to shoot action pistol with. I'm not a fan of the triggers on the Ruger semi-auto pistols I've fired.

Also (and this doesn't apply to you in Argentina) Smith & Wesson has been doing alot to promote shooting sports since being reacquired as an American company, and I would enjoy supporting them with a purchase.

My choice if available, the M&P9L:
 

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With out question the S&W M&P is the best choice, I know there are a lot of XD fans on this thread and will say it's a fine pistol but if you have the chance to shoot both the choice becomes simple.
 
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