which foreign handguns compare to US-made?

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by floppablebootydisk, May 24, 2012.

  1. floppablebootydisk

    floppablebootydisk New Member

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    How to foreign handguns compare to US made handguns of the same basic functionality in terms of accuracy reliability and ease of handling?

    How do foreign handguns compare in quality?

    Which countries are the most formidable competitors to US companies:
    my guess is the Germans, Belgians, Czechs, and French present the stiffest competition on quality.

    On price I am guessing the Russians and Chinese have the lowest prices but not the best quality...?
     
  2. g17frantz

    g17frantz New Member

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    Man I don't even know where to start.
     

  3. kycol

    kycol New Member

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    Well we all know Belgium made Brownings are some of the best quality in the world. And in the Philippines we have the Rock Island Armory who in my opinion makes and awesome 1911
     
  4. knfxda

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    Everyone will have their own opinion about which is better but here's a list of top manufacturers of pistols. Not sure if it's all correct, and I'm probably missing some. It also depends on the type of pistol that you are looking for. How do you really compare a Les Baer to a GLOCK?

    I would say that, on whole, the US makes the best 1911s and Revolvers, hands down. I would say that foreign countries have the lead for Browning Hi-Power-derivatives and striker-fired polymer guns. Just an opinion that I am not strongly tied to and would leave it up to the more knowledgeable to be able to fully disect.

    Austria - GLOCK
    Belgium - FN Herstal
    Croatia - XD/XD-m (sold in US by Springfied)
    Czech Republic - CZ
    Germany - H&K, Walther
    Italy - Beretta
    Philippines - Armscor (Rock Island)
    Switzerland - SIG Arms (Sig Sauer)
    US - Browning (Owned by FN Herstal), Colt, Dan Wesson (owned by CZ), Kel-Tec, Kahr, Les Baer, Remington, Smith & Wesson, Sturm Ruger
     
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  5. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Somehow I see this becoming a 1911 vs glock thread in the end. Interesting question though.
     
  6. therewolf

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    IMHO, the best foreigners wind up having representation here.

    Beretta, in Accokeek MD, and CZ, for example.

    OTOH, you can do very well with a Tokarev and a spam can from

    J&G. Nagant revolvers are also cheap and plentiful, but so are

    Ruger and Taurus .38s.

    Like someone else said:"Where do I start?"
     
  7. sweeper22

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    A great firearm can be made literally anywhere. It's all about the individual manufacturer, and the care they choose to take in engineering, material selection, and quality control.

    There are plenty of extremely high quality "made in China" products out there. Unfortunately they're out-numbered by the cheapo junk. The US is very much a firearms leader, but you'll also find pawn shops littered with "made in the USA" Saturday Night Specials.

    I would tend to buy American made when it comes to revolvers and 1911s. Everything else is a case by case decision. I like Sig and CZ products quite a lot...BTW, is CZ now a US company?
     
  8. knfxda

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    My understanding is that there is a CZ-USA that imports CZ firearms made in the Czech Republic, but they are still a subsidiary of CZ - Czech Republic. Dan Wesson is also under the CZ umbrella.
     
  9. oli700

    oli700 New Member

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    yeah, every CZ is made in the Czech Republic and imported through CZ-USA in Kansas City
     
  10. orangello

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    The quality on my springfield armory XD45 from Croatia seems pretty good to me.
     
  11. kycol

    kycol New Member

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  12. floppablebootydisk

    floppablebootydisk New Member

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    (Somebody mentioned that the Chinese make guns but I don't see any Chinese entries here, or Russian, and for sure they make guns.)

    Question: Say you had a private security company purchasing agent from country X who wanted the best handgun for personal security work like bodyguard, etc.

    Say he was comparing a Smith & Wesson but wanted something comparable but cheaper. Which foreign gun would fit the bill?
     
  13. sweeper22

    sweeper22 New Member

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    I'm sure costs vary greatly by brand from one country to the next...so that's a pretty open ended question depending on the specific location.

    Here in the US, you're going to have a hard time beating a S&W M&P for a $400-500 service pistol (and the cost would be presumably less still, for a dept contract of sorts) . For whatever reason they seem to have flooded the market a bit recently, and costs are reflecting that supply. And they're very good guns, BTW. But that's the cost here, in some parts of the world they might very well fall among the cost prohibitive.
     
  14. therewolf

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    Oh, yes, the guys out of Ohio with, hands down,

    the best warranty in the industry, regardless

    of price.


    Oh yeah, I forgot about them...:cool:
     
  15. nukinfuts29

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    You sir read my mind. And one of my favorite guns of all time is my Makarov!
     
  16. MrWray

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    I vote for phillipines "Armscor"

    When i took my High Standard 1911 to a gunsmith to have some upgrades done, i picked it up and he told me that it was a joy to work on. He told me that it compares very close to a Colt model 70.
     
  17. jpattersonnh

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    Rock Island(Armscor) makes a great entry leval .45acp 1911. I'm not sure you will find a West German SIG lacking, but they are turn ins. I have a P6 that is outstanding. I'm not a big Berretta fan, Taurus either. The 92 series in particualar does not stand up past 5000 rounds. I've had major peening on the frame of both after 3000 rounds. The Sig also has an alloy frame, but it is VG.
     
  18. knfxda

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    I'm not up on Russian guns and I don't believe there to be a comparable high-end Chinese-made gun, but I could be wrong.

    If it were me:

    1 SIG
    2 H&K
    3 GLOCK
     
  19. Rick1967

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    Wow I can't believe no one has mentioned how awesome Taurus is!

    Just kidding. Most people here know I hate them. But someone always comes along and says how they are so much better than Colt or Smith & Wesson. :eek:
     
  20. futureshooter

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    Fn 5-7 is also a great gun, but the glock just wins it all.