which ammo

Discussion in 'AK & SKS Discussion' started by bogcjg, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. bogcjg

    bogcjg New Member

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    i want an ak but should i get a 5.45x39mm or should i get a 7.62x39mm
     
  2. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    7.62x39 is cheaper and easier to find.

    5.45x39 is smaller and easier to shoot...
     

  3. bogcjg

    bogcjg New Member

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    i

    do they use the some mags or no and i found 1000 rounds of 5.45 for 160
     
  4. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    Not so much. . . ?

    The 5.45 x 39mm is the cheapest and most abundant in surplus right now. They can be found for as little as $140 for a 1,200rd case. And American manufactures (Hornady) are beginning to pick this cartridge up and are making great ammo. Mags can get scarce though.

    The 7.62 x 39mm is still inexpensive at about $200/1000rds. Mags are plentiful and the round has excellent penetrability. It is abundant as well in surplus and made here in the US as well.
     
  5. rifleshooter474

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    They do not use the same Mags. If you have both rifles use care to keep Mags separated, as you can get some of the 7.69x39 Ammo. into a 5.45x39 Mag. but they won't feed right. Also you won't get more then around 12 into the smaller Mag. before they stop loading.
     
  6. rifleshooter474

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    both 7.69x39&5.45x39 are AK great rifles I like Brown&Silver Bear Ammo. Lots of 7.69 Mags around I found Polish steel 5.45x39 30rd Mags are showing up at from around $15 Arms Of America - AK-74 5.45x39 Mags
    https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/cPath/50/products_id/851
     
  7. bogcjg

    bogcjg New Member

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    cool

    thank u guys
     
  8. therewolf

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    Strangely enough, when I went to the newest Speer, Hornady, and Lyman

    manuals, I found no mention of 5.45x39, except in the 7.62 x39 chapter.

    There it is only mentioned as a necked down cartridge of the parent

    7.62x39...
     
  9. 7.62 Man

    7.62 Man New Member

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    This is the cheapest you will find the 5.45x39 ammo.
    But you will need to buy in bulk to get the best savings.
    5.45x39 Ammunition
    If you get some fellow shooters to help with the buy you can get the price down to around 10.8 cents per round.:eek:
     
  10. jdwohlers

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  11. 7.62 Man

    7.62 Man New Member

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    Some of the older stuff is laquer coated but the new brown bear ammo is polymer coated.
     
  12. Glockcurmudgeon

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    Depends upon the reason you have either weapon...

    The 7.62X39 is more than adequate as a hunting weapon/self defense platform. IF you keep it for deer/hogs and such, it's adequate to the task. For self defense, it's also adequate to the task. Why? The bullets are 122 to 154gr in weight, and they are generally accurate to 300m, though with better ammo quality, better weapon design/manufacture/shooter skills, range and target size can be increased...

    I DON'T like the 5.56, or the 5.45. Why? Too small a bullet diameter, cross sectional density, and fragility of the bullet itself. True, ballistic coefficient is better, but to what extent does that play at the ranges tasked for those rounds, versus combat distances in the real world?

    The 7.62X39, or the AK, is known around the world as "The Widow Maker." Second generation Soviet bullets had a void in the forward portion of the projectile. Aft, the bullet's lead core would slam forward, usually in the first 3cm of penetration. This would instantly destabilize the projectile, much as did the early 5.56rds from the M16 of the Vietnam era. Being larger and heavier, the 7.62X39 round wrecks extraordinary damage to whatever flesh, organs, and systems it encounters...

    Why go with a lesser round? At least the Soviets and their successors tried to emulate the M16 in performance, but unfortunately for us, their weapons are more reliable than ours. Still, I wouldn't want to get hit with any of the above rounds, but choose, instead, to rely upon 7.62X39 for short range, up close and personal, usage...