Which .45 for Concealed Carry?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by feedsasquatch, Jul 12, 2009.

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  1. feedsasquatch

    feedsasquatch New Member

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    So, my wife and I are getting our concealed carry licenses this month. I've decided that I want to carry a .45. Not a .40, and not 9mm. Fact is, a hit with a JHP .45, is better than a hit with a JHP 9mm. So, which .45 ACP should I carry? (My wife will carry a 9mm, because she can't handle the recoil of a .45, yet)

    - Glock 36? I already own a Glock 22. I like Glock, trust Glock, and think it would be comfortable to carry, as it is very slim. However, I've heard many people complain that they jam if you limpwrist them, which could be a problem if I have to fire it one-handed...

    - Springfield XD? Is the 4" compact the same size as the Glock 30? How is it's concealabilty compared to a Glock 36? I don't question Springfield's reliability, but I do prefer the ergonomics of a third gen Glock...

    - 1911? I know next to nothing about these things, except that tons of people on this forum swear by them. So this is pretty much an open invitation to sell me on one. Why a 1911 vs. Glock or Springfield? Why single action vs. DAO? Why a massive pistol that weighs 40+ ounces loaded over one that weighs at least 1/2 a pound less? Is it concealable?

    *If a 1911, what's a good brand that's under $800 (Taurus, Springfield, Kimber?).
     
  2. UnderFire

    UnderFire New Member

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    My vote goes for Para USA PXT LDA Single Stack or Kimber Ultra Carry II;
    both in 1911 miniature frames & .45ACP and other calibers available also.
     

  3. feedsasquatch

    feedsasquatch New Member

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    How's the recoil in a 3" barrel in a 1911? I found the recoil in a .45 Glock compact to be very manageable, but have never fired a 1911.
     
  4. UnderFire

    UnderFire New Member

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    Of course more than a full size.
    It seems you're comfortable with .45 cals so I don't see a problem.
    Also Kahr makes some awesome compact 45's. Check-out Kahr's CW & P/PM series.
     
  5. Franciscomv

    Franciscomv New Member

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    A 1911 would be my choice, even the full size single stacks are slim and relatively easy to carry. I don't mind the weight of a steel-framed Government size 1911, but I understand that's a very subjective thing, so you might want to look into some of the compact ones with 4 1/4" or 3" barrels and perhaps aluminum frames.

    My dad has carried a Colt Defender for a while (3" barrel and aluminum frame), it's a dandy little pistol and it's very accurate. I don't know how many shots he's fired, but I've personally run 200 rounds through it and enjoyed it a lot.

    Paras are worth looking at, too. Their LDA guns are interesting, although I prefer single action pistols. I've been shooting my P14-45 a lot lately and I love it, the big thick grip fits my hand well. I've been considering getting a Warthog for concealed carry in the summer, it is thick but you get 10+1 rounds of .45 goodness! If you prefer a single stack, you can go with the Slim Hawg (6+1 cartridges, the receiver is made out of stainless steel, unlike the aluminum Warthog).

    I have nothing against Glocks, they just aren't my cup of tea. I prefer single action pistols and I also like being able to buy all sorts of aftermarket parts for my 1911's to get them just the way I like them.
     
  6. layton

    layton New Member

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    You know, there is no one perfect fit all weapon, what I would suggest in go to a range that carries an assortment and just try to find the one that best suits you, some of the ranges will let you try before you buy, after all they want you satisfied and come back.I basically have not had any issues with recoil from either the 5,4, or 3 inch 45's, and I prefer the XD over the others, just like the feel and the hammer-less feature of the XD, also like the various safety features and I prefer the double action, but that is just me, as I said, it just feels good, I also like the double thumb recess on the XD, you can operate from either hand,remember, your dominant hand just might not have access to the weapon at that time. Do not rush into getting one, take your time, remember an important thing rest on your final decision, YOUR LIFE.

    Layton
     
  7. WDB

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    The 1911 is a sweet firearm and the best in the 45 acp. All the same I carry a S&W M&P 45. I believe it's easier to get on target, easier to carry as a habbit. I have much respect for the 1911 frame and believe the M&P took the best of that and made an easy carry 45. Shoot as many 45's as you can at a range that rents and find the one that fits you best. You have to be able to shoot it well and also carry it every day.

    Good luck, let us know your choice.
     
  8. feedsasquatch

    feedsasquatch New Member

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    I think I need to get my hands on a Kimber Ultra Carry II, Kimber Compact II, and a Para PXT LDA single-stack. Once I've fired them at a gun range I'll have a better feel for what I'm looking for.

    Is Taurus a good brand? Do they make a concealed 1911?

    Man, these things are not cheap, my budget for a carry gun was about $600 (and I didn't want to go over $800). I guess I'll be waiting till Christmas...
     
  9. General_lee

    General_lee New Member

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    Taurus makes a good 1911 for under $800.
    Just remember, it's a tried and true design thats been around since 1911.
     
  10. trex1310

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    XD

    I like the Springfield XD sub-compact. There's something to be said
    for 14 rounds of .45acp at your disposal.
     
  11. Dri-Wash

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    The Glock 36 is a very good cc weapon....I have been carrying it for 12 years...It conceals very nice...When I was in the Army I carried a 1911 for 5 yrs as my sidearm......but for self defense I still like the glock.. it is ready to rock and roll without having to remember to take it off safety.....I do have a great love for the 1911...but how many of you have had to deploy it in the real world.....every second counts and every move counts or it may be you that goes down..... There are many of you that may not like what I just stated but when the balloon goes up it is to late...... Military Term.....

    You already are familiar with the workings of the glock....you already have what is called muscle memory for the deployment of that weapon...why retrain for a different weapon? You have a big choice to make.... all the pistols that were mentioned are outstanding.... but just remember, train with what you will defend your life with....

    Okay off the soupbox...

    Tom
     
  12. Franciscomv

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    The price tag is probably the 1911's main drawback. Especially if you start adding accesories and changing parts (which you will). I still feel that it's a great design and that every pistol lover should own one.

    About Taurus, they had a bad reputation a few years back but they've improved a lot and their guns are affordable. I've heard horror stories about their customer service, but in the end they seem to always honour their warranty. They are quite popular in my country, since we have lots of trade agreements with Brazil and they are a lot cheaper than any other imported brand, they hold up well.

    If you don't want to get a 1911, you might want to try out a Smith & Wesson M&P. I bought a 9mm recently and tried the compact .45. They are nice guns, accurate and easy to shoot.
     
  13. Biohazurd

    Biohazurd New Member

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    Id look into the Colt commander or combat commander. IMO they are the best handguns ever made. Thats just me though...
     
  14. Succinct

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    Anybody try the new small Ruger LCP yet? I know nothing about them, but was considering one as an easy conceal carry since it's so small.

    Oh, never mind, just noticed that they're .380 only. Dang.

    I am on a quest to come up with an easy conceal carry for my XD 45ACP. I have the "service" model (couldn't find a compact at the gun show), 4" barrel, and man that same 13-round magazine that's so cool from a firepower perspective also makes for a thick grip that is tough to hide....
     
  15. matt g

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    3 to 4 inch barreled 1911s disappear, even in shorts and a t-shirt.

    If you've never fired a single action 1911, you owe it to yourself to do so. Even the triggers and actions on the cheap 1911s are superior to all else on the market. There is little, if any, creep or over travel on the triggers and they break like a glass rod.

    I dumped my .45 ACP USP for the down payment on my Kimber the day that I first fired a Kimber 1911. Since then, I've met people on ranges that have 1911s that want to trade a magazine through mine for a magazine through theirs. Because of this, I've sampled many different makes of 1911s, including Wilsons and Caspians and tuned bastard pistols as well as cheap and budget minded 1911s.

    This has all lead me to appreciate the 1911 in all it's forms. If you're interested in a 1911 as a carry piece, I'd take a look at a Colt Commander or Kimber Compact II as an entry piece.

    Your fanaticism will take off from that day.
     
  16. sgtging

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    I'll have to agree with Dri-wash. I carry a Glock 30 for concealed carry either in a belt holster or inside the belt holster. I'm a die hard 1911 fan and carry one on duty, but the Glock is easier to conceal and has fewer rough edges as compared to a 1911.
     
  17. Orlando

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    Dan Wesson Bobtail, its my everyday carry piece. Carry IWB in a Milt Sparks Summer Special.
    Its a Semi Custom at a production pistol cost. Has many Ed Brown parts
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  18. 753X0

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    My first choice, they are getting a rare, is my Detonics .45

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    My other choice, it's kinda pricey, but worth it. IMHO. Kimber Pro CDP II, Custom Shop.

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  19. cpttango30

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    Heres my thing about packin. I want a tough pistol that can stand up to the abuse it is goign to see getting tossed in to a evidance locker. You know that cop doesn't give a rats azz about your nice flashy cool looking 1911 that you tossed $2000 down on. It goes in a bin with the rest. If it rusts not his problem.

    For that I say get something that is built to take that kind of abuse. I can get a glock for $350 to $500 in my area. Not bad for me to get for a throw away gun. my $700 Kimber is not meant to be treated like that.

    I would go to a range and look at there compacts and try them out all of them. Then go to another range and do the same if you find some that were not at the other range. Find the one that feels good to you and shoots the best for you. Don't just shoot like you are shooting for your life if you can. not just taking your time and plinking at a paper target.

    When you find one that out shoots them all and feels good to you then buy it no matter the cost.
     
  20. feedsasquatch

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    Well, I got to shoot a true Colt Government model 1911 this week. Wow, it was amazing. I know want a 1911 for my home-defense gun and concealed carry pistol (as soon as my license comes in the mail). Hmmm, maybe a Kimber Ultra Carry II and a Taurus 1911 for home defense to replace the Glock 23? Or maybe I should just save up some extra $$$ and get a Kimber Tactical model for home defense. We'll see...
     
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