where to shop

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Hot Sauce NARC, May 4, 2009.

  1. Hot Sauce NARC

    Hot Sauce NARC New Member

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    say i was curious to research a build on a custom remington 700 in 308 or possibly 300 win mag, where would i go to find a good 700 action? I have looked around the interweb and i cannot seem to find many places that have 700 actions all by themselvs. I really like the surgeon rifle's 700 action but cannot afford the 1200 dollar price tag. So where would you guys suggest i start looking to find a good quality, somewhat affordable 700 action?

    gotta spent that overtime check somehow!!!!!!
     
  2. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    You see, that's the problem, there are no GOOD 700 Rifle Actions. :D:D

    Seriously. Go to a gun show and look for a beat up rifle. One that has been dropped, one that has been in the dad's closet forever and a day. An estate sale. Something like that. Buy the gun for the action only. No glass, no special ammo and carrying case, all you want is the action. The worse condition the gun is in, the better for you.

    That's the prescription for a good build action. That is what I did when I bought my Model 70. Found an old, beat up gun a guy had for like 30 years. It didn't look like much, and that is what I was looking for, an action I could build on.

    Good luck and let me know how the shopping goes...

    JD
     

  3. Hot Sauce NARC

    Hot Sauce NARC New Member

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    well im not specifically set on a 700 im tempted to spend more money and a long range tack driver seems like a good way to do it. Ive had about a 3 day lecture from a state trooper friend about how savage rifles are THE best lower end rifle to start with and it looks like the actions are somewhat available and cheap. Im somewhat certian i could also get ahold of a winchester model 70 elcheapo pencil barrell plastic stock in 270 for 200 bucks but i have no idea what can be built out of that

    I do like the idea of buying a P.O.S 700 and going from there but if u wanted to go in another direction to get to the goal of a long range tack driver what other suugestions would you give for a starting point?

    thanks J.D. and anyone else that wishes to contribute
     
  4. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    I like to trash the 700 action because it always gets the guys fired up. :D

    Buying an old beat up 700, or a pre-'64 Winchester if you can find them, is THE way to go in rifle builds. People have these old rifles, that have been abused, haven't taken care of, belonged to a family member and have no idea what the gun even is used for, and they want to sell them off. You can find them for less than $300, usually though that hasn't been as easy lately, and you buy just the gun.

    That is all you want. The worse the stock is, the better for you. Hell, if you could find one that is cracked, or broke, so much the better. A former rifle that is now a hunting pistol because someone dropped it is EXACTLY what you are looking for. :D

    There are newer models that would be a good choice too, but that isn't building your own platform. That is more like adapting one to meet your needs. if you want the REAL journey, you need to hunt down and source a real, used action, strip it down to just the action, and start ordering parts from there. THAT is where the real fun is.
     
  5. Hot Sauce NARC

    Hot Sauce NARC New Member

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    sounds like a plan ill hit up a guy on the way home today.....his shop is full of junk guns he may know where to start :D

    i also know a guy with a ooooooold rem 700 in .222 it has a cracked stock but will that action handle the longer .30 cal rounds (308, 300 win mag) ?
     
  6. skullcrusher

    skullcrusher New Member

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    I did not even get the chance to jump on you for the anti-Remmy deal. :D
     
  7. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    I don't think the .222 will handle the 300 Win Mag, but I believe the action itself will handle a .308.

    The Magnum calibers are Long Actions. The short actions handle the smaller calibers and I am pretty sure the .308 is a short action build.

    I should know this, but I don't and I haven't been in the shop in a bit because Brett is off killing groundhogs. :eek:
     
  8. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    Like JD, I'm a huge fan of the Winchester Model 70. You want one that was made before 1964. Look long and look hard. The pre-'64 Model 70 is the shooter's action.
     
  9. Hot Sauce NARC

    Hot Sauce NARC New Member

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    everyone i asked about pre 64 Winchesters gave me a look like i was wearing a tinfoil hat. central Illinois sucks when it comes to finding what you want gun wise
     
  10. Dillinger

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    The pre-'64's are pretty rare - and a lot of gunsmiths won't take a pre-'64 project because the steel is VERY hard on tooling. We generally have one to three actions done with the tooling before it needs to be sent out again, or flat out repurchased.

    The pre-'64 is a beefy, beefy action, with a huge footprint for bedding into the stock. It's a monster to hang a big bull barrel off of and not have to worry about it's counter weight.

    If you can find one, it's going to be either one of two categories: 1) The person has no idea what they have, and just have an old hunting rifle they want to sell. 2) Someone who knows EXACTLY what they have and will have just the action for sale for someone looking for a build, just like you.

    I woudl suggest looking for "old Winchester hunting rifles" and see what you find in the local papers and shops. Don't ask about the pre-'64 specifically, but see what you can find and work backwards from there if that is what you are really looking for....

    Best of luck!

    JD
     
  11. Hot Sauce NARC

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    well i think i will look for an old beat up 700 to start with and if in that process i come across a pre 64 that i can afford ill snatch it up and go from there, but for now it looks like it will be easier for me to get ahold of a 700 action for around 300, and then get a aftermarket heavy barrell from someone like kreiger (yes i know about the backlog) and then pay for someone who knows what there doing to blueprint and glass bed it, and i figure i can do the rest from there.:cool:
     
  12. Dillinger

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    ^^ Nothing wrong with that plan. If you are going with a Magnum action though, and you are paying for the blue print, have them drill your screw holes out to #8's at the same time. A little beefier and more stable on that big magnum for your expensive glass.

    Good luck...

    JD
     
  13. cpttango30

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    Dude as the FTF Remington 700 FANBOY leader. I am going to say dump that thought. Get your self a Savage Action from a buddy of mine on another board. Jewell Triggers by GREAT SCOTT Shooters Products

    The savage action is just as popular and cost less plus with a barrel nut wrench and a set of go no-go gauges you can have a switch barrel at a fraction of the cost. You can get it in the .473" bolt face and that opens the doors wide open to any cartridge in the world with a .473" head diameter. (308, 30-06). I can get all the same stocks for either action and you can get the savage action with a right or left port I believe. Having the port is much better as it makes the action much more stiff that having the entire top of the action milled away.
     
  14. Hullcreature

    Hullcreature New Member

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    Strongly suggest staying away from the gun shows right now...cant even get a Ruger 10-22 for a fair price in them. The "governments gonna get you" mentality is still on a rampage so they gun show dealers are raping and pillaging on their pricing.
     
  15. Hot Sauce NARC

    Hot Sauce NARC New Member

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    went to a near by gun shop today just to poke around, he had a new Remington 700 (sps tactical i think its called) its a 700 rem in .308 with 20 inch heavy barrel 3 # trigger and hogue over molded stock he wanted about 680 for it and it seemed like a fair price. Im curious to know how accurate that gun should be, because if it can be easily accurized i might just go with it to start. Are these guns free floating and glass bedded? do they need to be? What do you think?