Where should I start?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by BigSe63xy, May 30, 2010.

  1. BigSe63xy

    BigSe63xy New Member

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    I want to buy a rifle but I have no idea what I want or where to start. The only thing I know for sure is I want a bolt action. The purpose of the gun is just for target shooting. I don't want suggestions of certain guns that you, yourself, like. I would just like a link to a website where I can do my own research. Thanks in advance for all the help I know I will recieve.

    Edit: I'm sorry if my post above came off rude or arrogant. That wasn't my intention at all. I would like to clarify a few things. I DO want/need your help and I know you have a lot of knowledge to share. That is the reason I joined the site after all. It has also been pointed out that I should give you a little background information. First off, I'm 20 years old, but I really didn't want to tell everyone because I wasn't sure if you guys would treat me differently. I'm pretty new to shooting, seeing as how I've probably only gone 5-6 times in my life. I would like to change that though because I really enjoyed those times I did go. Another reason I want to learn more about the sport is because my grandpa really likes to shoot and I figure that this could be a great way to spend some time together before he's gone. Again, I'm really sorry if I got off on the wrong foot. I hope I can make up for it by becoming a contributing member of this site.
     
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  2. Jpyle

    Jpyle New Member

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    If you do not want advice or suggestions I would suggest Google. You can find all kinds of links there...
     

  3. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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    Start by going to the Introductions Thread and, well; introduce yourself to the membership.

    Now to your question....

    Do you want to shoot recreationally? Is this your first rifle? Do you want to shoot 100 yards and greater? Would you be happy target shooting at 50yards?

    Well, OK..here is a link to bolt guns Rifles: Bolt Action and Tactical at Impact Guns Home
     
  4. BigSe63xy

    BigSe63xy New Member

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    I've tried google but the problem I'm having is that I don't know what to search for. If I could get just a little nudge in the right direction, I could take it from there.

    Yes I want to shoot recreationally. It won't be the first rifle I've owned, my dad got me one for christmas when I was around 13, but this will be the first one I will be purchasing myself. I would like to shoot around 100 yards, maybe a little farther. Thanks for that link. I'll take a look right now.
     
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  5. Silvertip 44

    Silvertip 44 New Member

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    Well, then, maybe you should get some opinions from our experienced shooters to begin with. Tell us what you plan to do with the rifle and possibly we can give you some direction.
     
  6. mcramer

    mcramer New Member

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    you should start with the distances you would like to reach accurately, and then research calibers, and prices of ammo.

    I dont have a rifle other that an auto .22lr, and if i wanted a target rifle for say 100yds or less, i might look at maybe a .223
    maybe a .270 for a little more. if i wanted to go 300yds, i might go with something in a 30 calibre.
     
  7. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    What do you want to shoot? What is the ultimate end goal for this purchase?

    Do you want to shoot cans and playing cards with your friends at 75 to 150 yards?

    Or do you want to be able to compete with it in shooting contests?

    Or do you want a rifle you can practice with and maybe hunt with later on?

    Do you want cheap ammo? Like with a .22lr? Or do you want real centerfire ammo knowing that you might reload one day?

    Help us help you a little here.

    JD
     
  8. BigSe63xy

    BigSe63xy New Member

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    I just want to shoot at pop cans, paper targets, etc. I see myself shooting mostly at targets 100-150 yards but I would occasionally want to shoot targets at a little longer range than that, say 200-300 yards. I would pay around $20 for a box of 20 rounds, but they don't have to be high quality. Also my grandpa reloads so I could ask him to help me out.

    P.S. Do you have to have a license or permit to fire a gun in Kansas?
     
  9. skullcrusher

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    Go big and go strong, that's what I always say. (well, not really, but hey since you are doing all of the research yourself and you don't want any real life advice from real shooters)

    You HAVE to go with a .300 Win Mag. It will do what you want and then some. There are also some air rifles that will do what you want to do and they are cheaper. If you really want to man up, .50 BMG.

    Now, if you really want some practical advice, stick around and there are plenty of helpful and very knowledgeable people here with more experience than you can imagine. If not, Google is your friend.

    As far as gun laws in Kansas, why not call your local Sheriff. Other than that, Google "gun laws in Kansas".

    I forgot to add the rolleyes thingy....
     
  10. mcramer

    mcramer New Member

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    ok. great start.

    now start looking at ballistics on calibers .223, .243, .25-06, .270 and maybe something in .30

    if you want to go bigger thats up to you. the calibers i listed are what i believe to be the most popular calibers. after you decide on a calibre that will reach the maximum distance with enough energy, only thing thats left is to find a gun in that calibre
     
  11. mcramer

    mcramer New Member

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    a .50 BMG for a maximum of 300yds?

    man skull, you must REALLY like your targets destroyed dont you? hahahaa
     
  12. skullcrusher

    skullcrusher New Member

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    Same for the .300 Win Mag.

    It was all tongue-in-cheek. If the person wants to do all the research without getting some practical advice from actual shooters, then why the heck not?

    My point is that there is so much knowledge here just for the taking for anyone who is serious about learning something. When a new person comes in and just wants links to arbritrary sites and is not willing to learn, then eff it. *shrug*

    Duder is already willing to pay a dollar a round for something he has no idea of what he wants. Think about it...:rolleyes:
     
  13. mcramer

    mcramer New Member

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    i know what you mean. i want a 300 WM for my general hunting rifle. its a very fun gun.
     
  14. jpattersonnh

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    Sarcasm, here?
    O.K., My suggestion. Get a good .22lr bolt gun. It is cheap to shoot, great practice.
    As far as a centerfire, take a look at the CZ527 Varminter. .204 or .223 will fit the bill. The .223 Chamber is CIP certified so shooting 5.56x45 surplus ammo will not void the guarantee. Trigger is two stage or single set. All the varminter barrels are 1:9 twist, so it will handle heavier bullets. The website is still wrong as far as the barrel twist.
    You need a good scope, not a $120.00 cheapo. A scope that will make the CZ excel is almost as much as the Rifle. A Harris bi-pod is also a necessity.
    You are looking at about a thousand for a good rig. JP



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  15. skullcrusher

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    Damn sweet looking set-up jpatterson! Great advice there, but you forgot a link so the op can research for himself. Keep in mind that advice is not wanted. :p

    Is that legal in Kansas? :confused:
     
  16. BigSe63xy

    BigSe63xy New Member

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    It's not that I don't want your help, it's that I didn't want somebody to come in and say, "Get a Winchester Model 700" because I don't know what that is. I'm sorry if I made it sound like I didn't want your help. I really do. I just want somebody to show me what to look for in a gun rather than telling me exactly what I should get, without explaining why.
     
  17. jpattersonnh

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    Yer not in Kansas anymore! :D I think he can find the CZ website. If not he should stay away from firearms.
     
  18. mcramer

    mcramer New Member

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    well the way the Obama admin wants things, any scoped rifle is "a Sniper Rifle", thus making it illegal...but i wont say anything if you dont ;)
     
  19. bgeddes

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    Amen. Decent rifles are available anywhere. Ruger, Savage, Marlin, etc make great inexpensive rifles that shoot well enough to hone your skills. For a few hundred dollars you can learn shooting skills that will last you your lifetime.

    Many of us continue to shoot the .22lr round for practicing skills. Keep your ego in check, you don't need a big money gun or high powered round to learn marksmanship.

    Best wishes in your pursuit of the hobby, just know, once your are bit, it gets crazy.
     
  20. joshfireart

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    hard to beat a 22 long rifle but 150 yards is a moor then pushing its limits need to move to a center fire rifle and choice are end less. Try going to a rifle range and ask the people there what there shooting. tell them your just learning and are looking to buy a rifle, most shooters love to talk about there guns. and if they are like me they might offer for you to shoot it. Remember to thank them and offer the a couple dollars a round for th ammo you shot, good luck