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I know you are supposed to make Leos aware that you are carrying, but what if he just start s joking with you out of the blue? Even if he just ask you a general question about some random thing do you still have to tell him you are carrying?
 

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I know you are supposed to make Leos aware that you are carrying, but what if he just start s joking with you out of the blue? Even if he just ask you a general question about some random thing do you still have to tell him you are carrying?
Actually you may not have any obligation to tell a police officer anything,much less that your carrying. It depends on your local and state laws where you live.

We don't have an obligation to tell an officer were carrying where I live,and I wouldn't do so if he wasn't talking to me on official business. Usually an officer will ask for your ID or drivers license if he's stopped you for serious police business. That's the point that I would hand him my HCP with my DL just out of respect.
 

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Where I live they put a stamp on your DL showin a ccl AND they give you a seperate id for it too
 

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It depends on the law in your home state. In NC we are required to tell the officer we are armed if the officer puts the blue lights on and pulls you over. I have been pulled over several times because the officer was trying to locate someone in my neighborhood to serve a warrant. I tell them I am armed and the officers are very relaxed. I answer any questions the officer asks and I go about my business.

Most of the time when officers ask weird questions or make jokes they are watching to see how you react. I had one officer ask if I had any hand grenades, rocket launchers or explosives. I told him I sold my bat mobile. He laughed and sent me on my way.
 

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in some states you are required to inform the officer you are carrying if it's in the course of his official business. meaning, stopped for a moving violation and asked for your ID, then yes, you would be required to surrender such information.

if you happen to be at the local corner store and the two of you are chatting about the weather or the local high school football scores, then no, you wouldn't be required to. in that situation, you are just two people discussing a topic of interest.
 

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LEO normally can guess if you carry.

Just as I check out others to see if they are carrying (the signs are there). A protusion on the opposite side of where someone carries a phone (and most right handed people carry the phone on the left side, and CW on the right), one leg of the jeans seems to be tighter than the other, etc....
 

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LEO normally can guess if you carry.

Just as I check out others to see if they are carrying (the signs are there). A protusion on the opposite side of where someone carries a phone (and most right handed people carry the phone on the left side, and CW on the right), one leg of the jeans seems to be tighter than the other, etc....
It was very wierd for me to put my phone case on my left side when I started to carry a firearm. It took me some getting use to having my phone on the opposite side. Ive noticed more people carrying now that I do.
 

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It was very wierd for me to put my phone case on my left side when I started to carry a firearm. It took me some getting use to having my phone on the opposite side. Ive noticed more people carrying now that I do.
We develop a habit of looking over people we meet to see if they could be carrying. It is a way of our learning by the mistakes of others.
 

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Here in Michigan, we're obliged to inform the officer ASAP. Let him/her decide what's next. Although it's not required, it's not a bad idea to give the officer a heads-up even if you're a passenger.
 

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My take on is the same if your packing legal heat or not.

The person with the gun, badge and handcuffs is called "Sir", "Mam", Officer or another friendly term

If you have any type of weapon on or near your person, you should feel compelled to allow them to find that out with your words, not by a fluke of bad luck or some misunderstanding.

Friendly and calm are more appreciated by most Law Enforcement than agitated and derogatory, they already know we pay their salary, nothing good will ever come of reminding them

Dont challenge the judgement of the officer at the time of "the Occurrence"; that's what courtrooms are for, obviously the person with the badge has the upper hand at the moment in question and you have very little to say about it that wont make things worse.

Understand that the best an officer can hope for is their "Occurrences" will all be inconsequential but they arent all without death and or injury to them or us. They dont get second chances to make a perfect decision and the onus is on us to make it as easier to not be worried about our actions at that moment.

So far, 99% of the very few interactions in my life Ive had with the Law have been summarily dismissed with a warning by the law-persons themselves or in court with a minor slap on the wrist.
 

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Here in Michigan, we're obliged to inform the officer ASAP. Let him/her decide what's next. Although it's not required, it's not a bad idea to give the officer a heads-up even if you're a passenger.
Yep you gotta love Michigan firearm laws. Hey Donn what part of Michigan are you from?
 

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It depends on the law in your home state. In NC we are required to tell the officer we are armed if the officer puts the blue lights on and pulls you over. I have been pulled over several times because the officer was trying to locate someone in my neighborhood to serve a warrant. I tell them I am armed and the officers are very relaxed. I answer any questions the officer asks and I go about my business.

Most of the time when officers ask weird questions or make jokes they are watching to see how you react. I had one officer ask if I had any hand grenades, rocket launchers or explosives. I told him I sold my bat mobile. He laughed and sent me on my way.
I live in N.C. also, should've mentioned that.
 

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I live in N.C. also, should've mentioned that.
The law here (NC) says you are obligated to inform when approached by an officer (paraphrasing).

It makes no differentiation whether that interaction is of a social or business nature.

A few years ago, in line at a store a uniformed officer struck up a 'small talk' type of conversation with me...(weather, sports type of stuff). I showed him my CCW card just to err on the side of caution. He didn't seem to care much in that particular situation, kind of just brushed it off.

I think, for me, even if it is just a social interaction, I'll still err on the side of caution in public.
 

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I know you are supposed to make Leos aware that you are carrying, but what if he just start s joking with you out of the blue? Even if he just ask you a general question about some random thing do you still have to tell him you are carrying?
I usually let the circumstances be my guide. If he is talking to me in an official capacity I will inform him. If we're just joking around in a checkout line or something I let it ride. Note: Florida law at this point does not require me to inform the officer of my weapon.
 

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Yep you gotta love Michigan firearm laws. Hey Donn what part of Michigan are you from?
Southeast, outside of Detroit, but not far enough
 

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Law and common sense are two diff articles altogether. My Motto,"Live to Fight Another Day". Too much depending on me to risk any self inflicted face-plants, (Wife, Kids, Grandkids, Morgage, Taxes, Jobs....).

Most of my friends who carry would say something if they were part of any discussion that had any nature or level of inquisition involved in it. At that point, its best to put all the cards on the table, I can think of very few situations where that's not best policy, especially in NY State, the most Gun Toting Liberal State in the Union, go figure.....
 

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Here in Michigan, we're obliged to inform the officer ASAP. Let him/her decide what's next. Although it's not required, it's not a bad idea to give the officer a heads-up even if you're a passenger.
{sigh}

IANAL, but 2A attorneys have advised me differently.

You are only required to inform if you're being detained. Casual conversation does not require it. And yes a passenger in a car is being detained and you are required to inform.
 

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Only ten states require notification of CCW upon official contact. If a LEO in other carry states asks you must produce CCW and ID.
 

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{sigh}

IANAL, but 2A attorneys have advised me differently.

You are only required to inform if you're being detained. Casual conversation does not require it. And yes a passenger in a car is being detained and you are required to inform.
You're right. I should've been more specific. That said, casual conversations between LEO's and I are very few and far between. Nothing against them, it just doesn't happen very often.
 

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You're right. I should've been more specific. That said, casual conversations between LEO's and I are very few and far between. Nothing against them, it just doesn't happen very often.
Yup, pretty much the same here. I try not to need or cause them to seek me for any reasons. Thats worked out for me pretty good so far!
 
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