when is it ok to fight?

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by beastmode986, Aug 14, 2012.

  1. beastmode986

    beastmode986 New Member

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    Ok so all of you know im 14 and going into high school. Im wondering what you guys think, when is it ok to fight? I have gotten into fights in the past(I did not start them but I sure as hell ended em :D) I don't like people to touch me or bully me and my dad has always told me never let anyone put there hands on you and beat the crap out of anyone who bullies you. My friends dad is a cop and he told me beat the crap out of someone until they stop moving if they bully you. That being said I have always stood up for myself but at my high school if you fight they have the police arrest you and bring you to the station. It dosent really intimidate me but I don't want that stuff on my record, Im thinking ill avoid getting into fight that start with a verbal argument but if someone pushes me/puts there hands on me then id fight. What do you guys think?
     
  2. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Avoid confrontation at all cost. Don't swing back unless you have injuries that are easily documented. You have the right to defend your life not your ego. Get in a fight and kiss your chances of owning guns goodbye.
     

  3. dog2000tj

    dog2000tj New Member

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    defend yourself at all times :cool:
     
  4. manta

    manta Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You don't like people touching you. Do you have a phobia about people touching you. I wouldn't take any advice form your friends dad he sounds like a kn*b nice attitude for a cop. Avoid fighting unless you have no other choice.
     
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  5. MrWray

    MrWray New Member

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    I have never believed in starting fights but i have damn sure never let someone pick on me or push me around. I cant stand bullies or someone that is trying to show off by acting tough, never be afraid to stand your ground and defend yourself.
     
  6. vincent

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    That's pretty much the long and short of it...avoid confrontation whenever possible, that characteristic will be VERY valuable to you should you decide to carry a gun in the future. I'ts NEVER ok for anyone else to put their hands on you and vice versa. Don't let pride cloud your judgement, never be ashamed to walk away from someone who is just being a general azzhat but should verbal blows turn into physical blows...light 'em up...strike fast, strike hard.

    I HIGHLY reccommend you read 'The Principles of Personal Defense' by Jeff Cooper. It is technically a defensive handgunning tutorial but the basic ideas can easily transfer over to confrontations not involving guns.
     
  7. Cattledog

    Cattledog New Member

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    There's no reason to fight until you get punched. Then you have to defend yourself. So far you have a decent grasp on it.
     
  8. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    Ditto! Win or lose ... No One will ever try you again.
     
  9. clem_

    clem_ New Member

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    Dont let anybody put their hands on you! and don't go looking for a fight.
     
  10. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    If WORDS were grounds for fighting, there are a half dozen folks here that I would have kicked their ass already. :D

    Seriously insults are one thing. Defending yourself from a physical assault is another. Yes, schools today are zero tolerance- any fights, everybody goes. You should not be the first one swinging. Back in the day, the principal would have hauled us bodily to the gym, Coach would have put gloves on us, and it would get settled.

    Those days are gone, they are NOT coming back. YOUR job is to graduate from school- and you are not going to do that if suspended or expelled.
     
  11. Sand_Squid

    Sand_Squid New Member

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    As for fighting avoid at all costs!! Words never hurts anyone.
    Yes, I've gotten in some fights in HS but they didn't have the zero tolerance as they have now days. I've gotten out of a lot of fights by putting the a$$clowns in some submission holds and talking some sense into the person on what his options are and results of his said unfavorable behavior.
    If you do happen to get in a fight as you had said and your dad's friend the cop, don't, do not beat the crap out of the person. Just do enough to stop the threat. Any more you can get your own a$$ in hot water.
    As for verbal altercations google " Verbal Judo" the guy that does the speech can help you out on how to turn the a$$ clowns words around to maker them look stupid.
    My two cents worth at no charge.
     
  12. orangello

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    Little story, as a smart-alec seventh grader, i mistakenly managed to piss off a LARGE senior football player (nice guy, my fault totally) on the bus one afternoon. Well, lacking the verbal skill to explain that i had not intended to offend his forefathers' honor or taste in women, he punched me, full-tilt in the face. For some odd reason still not entirely known to me, my reaction was to laugh histerically and point at the guy; this gave the impression that 1) i could take a solid punch 2) that i was probably not entirely balanced and 3) that i had no hard feelings against the guy. We had no further problems. Sometimes throwing a punch isn't the only way to "win" a fight.

    Now had duder swung again, it wouldn't have much mattered, as i would probably have been out cold.

    I got in remarkably few fights at school, considering my temper and smart-alec nature. The main tactic i employed was making sure that the other person wanted to fight badly enough to throw the first punch (a punch, not a lil wussy shove or a tossed book or taunt, an actual punch). Also, "beating somebody to sleep" will get you in more trouble and not make them look nearly as wussy as just putting them on the ground gasping for air or boohooing.

    Going to the police station won't kill you.
     
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  13. ineverFTF

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    I am also in highschool and if you are going to fight and you will, do it off campus. If you fight off campus you stand a better chance of not getting in trouble. That being said do not swing until swung at. If he shoves you, dont shove back. If he punches or kicks you, dont punch back or kick back. If he continues to punch and kick at you then and ONLY THEN fight him.

    P.s. i have been in fights at school, me and the other guy hated each other for years. So we eventually got into a fight after school so "technically" the school couldnt touch us. He had 20lbs on me and i kicked his ass. He is now one of my best friends. Bad fights dont have to mean bad blood.
     
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  14. beastmode986

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    My dad told me a story that when he was younger a kid smacked him in the head my dad said stop he smacked him again and my dad said stop one more time the kid smacked him and my dad turned around punched the kid (knocked him out of his chair) and got on top of him and kept punching him. Needless to say the kid never touched him again. When I say i dont like being touched I dont like people pushing me or getting physical in an argument. Last year I was new to my school and a kid kept shoving me whenever he saw me and I warned him 3 times not to touch me , he did it again and I went up to him next period and beat the crap out of him and he never touched me again. I never get into fights when I have any type of weapon/tool on me because if i did i would get extra charges. The only time id use a weapon is when I feel my life is in danger. Is it ok for me to punch someone if they shove me? and I fall? or should I walk away?
     
  15. orangello

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    Personally, i think that is the time for some bait like "was that a punch or are you practicing for a career rounding up shopping carts at walmart?" or some pointing and laughing.

    I too second the off-campus recommendation.

    Walk with some confidence, don't avoid eye contact, try to control the freshman flinch, speak clearly and firmly, and you will look less like a victim/prey.
     
  16. dog2000tj

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    if you are being bullied the first thing to do is report it immediately - tell your teacher, tell your principal, tell your guidance councinlor. 2nd, make sure you tell your parents.


    after that ... defend yourself at all times :cool:
     
  17. Zombiegirl

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    Best thing is to have the parents call the Principal. The parents always get more done than we can unfortunately....
     
  18. Sand_Squid

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    If you can walk away from any confrontations. If your on the ground be careful. Like ineveFTF said try and take it off grounds.

    What's the population of students in your HS? Is there lots of fights going on?
     
  19. ineverFTF

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    Personally i wouldnt have let it get past 3 times. But you kept your cool and warned him. You handled this very well imo.
     
  20. Tackleberry1

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    The decision to fight is best made just before your opponent swings. In the case of bullies, your dealing with a coward who's trying to boost his standing amongst peers. He thinks he's found a soft target who will take it to avoid pain or punishment.

    My 40 years has taught me that these guys will fold after 1 shot. It will be his word against yours as to whether or not he was going to swing but bullies always like a crowd so you'll have plenty of witnesses as to who the aggressor was.

    I would caution you about hitting or kicking someones who's down and no longer a threat. This will turn assault into assault and battery which is a much more serious charge.

    Always look to avoid trouble but be prepared to knock it on it's tail.

    Tack