Whats your home setup for self-defense and carrying while home?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by StainlessSteel215, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. StainlessSteel215

    StainlessSteel215 New Member

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    Serious topic, and got me revisiting my own setup after reading this FTF article:

    http://www.firearmstalk.com/entries/Do-You-Carry-At-Home.html

    Right now, for me with a 2 year old and a baby its tough and my system is constantly changing as they age. When my 2 year old was much younger I occasionally carried IWB in the house after work....until I put it on my nightstand for the night.

    Now, because shes older and WAY more active and likes to play and roll around....I do not carry while at home. Its just too risky in my opinion. When I return from work....I put it atop a tall china closet downstairs until its bedtime, then it goes in my closet shelf in a small digital lockbox....WAY higher than she could ever reach or access. I keep the lockbox unlocked at night in case I need to grab it ASAP, and never a round in the chamber. I lock all doors & set my house alarm once the sun goes down and it stays on til I leave the next morning.

    for now, this system works for me and is about as good as I can get it with 2 little ones and occasional company during the week.

    Anyone have any suggestions or comments to contribute? I need to strike the perfect balance of safety with comfort and security.
     
  2. bluez

    bluez Well-Known Member

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    I have a GP 100 w/ a strong trigger pull as a nighstand gun and if I keep my ammo in a speedloader next to an empty gun. no 2 yr will be able to load and fire that revolver
     

  3. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    until the two year old does. if you have children, you need something to secure that gun. the last thing you want to have to say to yourself and others is, i didn't think a two year old could have pulled that trigger.
     
  4. StainlessSteel215

    StainlessSteel215 New Member

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    Yep. I will NEVER be the guy who was over confident that my kid couldnt operate a gun. Those are the infamous last words of the poor souls who lost children this way at young ages.

    Nope, my focus is for those who carry all day and come home at night. Whats your system between the time you walk in your front door and the time you go to sleep. Where is your primary defense/carry pistol?
     
  5. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    well i don't carry within the home, but many time do outside when in the woods, because of hogs and snakes. in the home, there is one within close reach pretty much most of the time of some sort. rest assured, because it's only the wife and i and not anyone else in the house, these are not safed, but hidden from view.
     
  6. hawkguy

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    i say start with a SUPER keen awareness of where your child is at all times....this can help secure them from more than just firearms.

    after that....you are doing the right thing....you have given serious thought to safety and the effectiveness of your HD weapon. in the end, you MUST protect the safety of your children from harm to themselves FIRST. imo, a child harming themselves with a gun I own is probably THE worst case scenario and i would doubt my ability to ever forgive myself.
     
  7. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Flip the switch arming the electric fence and claymores.





    I wish.
     
  8. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    want me to send you some?:p

    i wish too!
     
  9. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    Our kids are ages 2, 5, 18, and 21... And before anyone asks, Yes, all with the same wife.

    My EDC goes on my hip while dressing in the morning and stays there until bedtime. Never been a problem to play with children of any age and IMHO, far less risky than leaving it unsecured, even on a high surface.

    With children, 100% retention and following the same routine 100% of the time is a good recipe to avoid accidents.

    Not trying to bust your chops but having been a father for 21 years and an EDC guy for 18 years probably means I've pretty much figured this out... However, it does not mean I allow complacency, hence stressing the routing a sticking to it in a disciplined manor.

    Oh... and I attached a pic my "early warning/Deterent system" below. :)

    Tack

     

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  10. StainlessSteel215

    StainlessSteel215 New Member

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    Great post tack, much appreciated.

    Yeah I guess your system is built from many more years of experience than me. Maybe I just can't work up the confidence to carry inside the home with the amount of rolling around and playing that I do as a dad.

    I'll admit your system is ideal and provides you with only one concern: retention. Mine on the other hand is a constant work in progress. I do have a kickass new custom kydex holster on the way for my XD so maybe I can start building confidence to carry IWB safely inside my home.

    Thanks guys, this is something I think about often
     
  11. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    Your welcome.

    The trick is a propper rig... IE... A gun holster Combo that protects the trigger, provides retention, and conceals to avoid "curiosity".

    When they get old enough to understand that daddy carries a gun, they need to be taught that daddies gun is NOT something they discuss outside the home.

    Let me know when you cross that bridge... I've got a few suggestions that may help.

    Tack

     
  12. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    I have never lived in a city under siege. Having to explain to little children why the parents carry side arms in the house. We do keep a 12 ga. loaded with slugs for the occasional irate moose or bear.;)
     
  13. DeltaF

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    Why on earth is it a problem for you to keep your sidearm on your person at home?

    Shouldn't you start teaching your kid about gun safety right away?

    Aren't you afraid that making guns taboo and constantly hiding them will cause her to be attracted to them the first opportunity she gets? What if that's at someone else's house and your not around?

    Why not teach her all about gun safety, how they work, and how they're "grown up tools" instead?

    My 3 year old can load the first few rounds in my AR magazines and sort my handgun ammo by caliber and FMJ/JHP. And she gives her friends gun safety lecture with their toy guns. As soon as she can legibly write her own name we're going to the range.
     
  14. thebleak14

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    Personally, I stick to the everyday all day method, from the point I get dressed in the morning to go to work till I go to bed. I carry concealed iwb chambered with the safety on and using what's been called a hybrid holster, leather against the body and kydex around the gun with a full combat grip. I've found it to be most comfortable for me being 5'10 and 145lbs it conceals well and easily. I'm an active father of 2, a 1yr old and a 4yr old, I'm always down on the ground rolling around and playing with my kids and it doesn't get in the way, while occasionally you may hit a position that gives mild discomfort but honestly you have a hunk of metal on your hip it's not going to be like carrying around a cell phone. While I understand the reservations to carrying at home, it's about the discipline, having it there at all times and sticking to your routine. Plus for me, I know my children are most safe if I know my gun is on me and no where else. Even when it's locked up, I still feel better knowing it's on my side.

    I wish you the best of luck in finding a comfortable carry system that helps alleviate your reservations to carrying even while in the home.
     
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  15. chloeshooter

    chloeshooter New Member

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    I see too many posts from guys bragging about what good listeners their kids are and they would never touch their guns. Sorry but this is an absolute in my book. Besides being illegal most places, leaving unsecured firearms in a house with kids is such a greater danger to them than any potential home invasion.

    Tired of reading the stories of what went wrong. There simply are no excuses. Stupid does not count
     
  16. StainlessSteel215

    StainlessSteel215 New Member

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    Great input everyone....
    Chloe that broadcast is loud and clear, and always in my mind which is why it sits atop an 8 foot china closet complete hidden behind a 2" recessed frame on the top. Not a snowballs chance in hell she could access it in any way....for now.

    A 2 year old in my opinion is not NEARLY capable of the disclipline needed to teach her about guns. No way in hell. Until she gets older and I can de-mystify the gun to her and explain what it is and why I carry it...it will remain out of sight (and reach). I'm just working up the nerve and confidence to carry IWB in the house at all times. Thats a huge step for me and once I get ahold of my new kydex rig I'll start incrementally I suppose.

    Agree 100% with all of you that although it works RIGHT NOW to hide the gun atop my china closet after work each day....thats going to change quickly as she grows and I need to secure it on my person or lock it up in the safe.

    I think we as parents think we can outsmart kids with intricate hiding places. The fact is, I found smaller things in much less obvious places when I was a youngster!
     
  17. mahall

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    Keep guns loaded or unloaded out of any possible reach of children, period!! First defense is door lock(dead bolt) 2nd defense is home alarm system, 3rd defense is my carry gun (g26) loaded and and can be in my hands within 5 seconds if needed with a extra mag near by! 4th defense, loaded 12 gauge about 10 seconds to reach!! 5th Defense?? Hoping I don't need it cause I don't have it-:)
     
  18. mountainman13

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    As you can see I'm up (kinda) and still in pajamas. Gun sits on headboard loaded and ready to go while I sleep and as soon as I get up......
     

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  19. mahall

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    Your braver than me!! I have been known to do some crazy **** in my sleep! To close for me!! Mine is kept in my nightstand drawer beside my bed!!
     
  20. mountainman13

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    It is in the holster atleast. I yell and throw punches etc. in my sleep. I've never grabbed a weapon and sure as he'll never drew a firearm from a holster.