whats to long of a shot?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by howquig, Nov 26, 2009.

  1. howquig

    howquig New Member

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    ok Guys I am hunting with a Rem 700 in 270 win. the place I use to hunt the longest shot I had would be around 150 yards but my new spot I have a clear view for around 600 yards so was just wondering what would be the longest shot you would attempt with such a rifle?
     
  2. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    I think the question here is what can you actually hit at 200, 300, 500 yards? If you hit the deer right, I think a 270 would drop it at 500 yards, IF you can hit it. The only time I've shot 500 yards is in the Marines, the range goes from 300 to 500 and let me tell you, it's a HUGE difference. If you don't practice at 500 yards on a regular basis, don't take the shot. If you don't practice at 300, don't take the shot.
    Also, do you know how your rifle patterns at 300 and 500? There are a lot of factors that go into these long distance shots that don't matter at 100.
     

  3. howquig

    howquig New Member

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    My longest shot has been 425 yards with my 30-06 but I have not had a chance to try any long shots with the .270 so I was just wondering how far out it was good to
     
  4. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    Try this, 270 Winchester Ballistic Table

    should give you an idea, it has drop, velocity and energy with carious bullet weights. I think your safe with a similar shot using your 270.
     
  5. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    If you can hit a 10" pie pan at 500 yards you may be ok.

    Not sure why you would want to target shoot at animals though?

    I wouldn't take a deer at 300 yards even though I can routinely hit whistle pigs at that distance. The rifles are different and the bullets and vitals are different. My 223 will blow a softball sized hole in a ground hog at 300 yards. My 30-06 will not do that to a deer at 300. There are people on this board I am sure could do it if they had to because they have the skill and the equipment to do it as well......

    Just shot within your limit and be safe. It is better to have a DRT at 100 yards than a 500 yard shot that results in a wounded deer.

    To long of a shot for you I would say is anything over 200.
     
  6. masterPsmith

    masterPsmith New Member

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    Most hunters cannot properly judge distance beyond 200 yards, if that. Especially when it comes to flat country verses, valleys, up and down and hill top to hill top. Most hunters also would not be able to make a 300 yard shot. I've known hunters throughout the years that claim to have made the long shots on deer (400 - 500 yards), but when challenged to make a measured 300 yard shot, when out shooting, failed to do so. I am no slouch with a rifle or handgun, but I limit my rifle shots to within 250 yards or so when hunting. For clean, humane kills, I would challenge all hunters to do the same.

    Just my 2-cents.................

    Jim......................
     
  7. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    the only time i would ever shoot an animal longer than 200 yards would be if i was going to starve to death if i didnt take the shot. i like target shooting long range but shooting an animal that far... i dont think i would risk wounding a critter on a normal trip at long range. i have a rifle and scope capable of reaching out to 1000+ yards but its not a hunting weapon. with hunting loads i doubt i could hit MOA past 300 yards with it.

    personally i think a good range for hunting with a rifle is around 200 yards max

    300 yards if you practice a lot and know your weapon. 1 MOA at 300 yards is a 3inch circle. thats a hard thing to do with hunting rounds.
     
  8. Typical_08

    Typical_08 New Member

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    Too long a shot in my book depends on the person. How accurate can the person be at what distance? What type of ammo are they using? The list goes on and on. In my book it is not too long a shot if the ammo still preforms as intended, and the shot is still well placed. I don't want to sound like a treehugger or anything here, but if you have to respect the animal you are harvesting. Respecting it means you put it down quickly and as painlessly as possible.
     
  9. Silvertip 44

    Silvertip 44 New Member

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    Two hundred is about maximum. Even though many of us can group well at longer ranges off the bench, that is not the standard condition we will be hunting.
    I did take a head shot at a doe couple of weeks ago off a stand rest bar aiming at the eye. The bullet hit in the front corner of the eye at 147 paces.
    One thing is certain, head shots result in no tracking and destroys no meat.
     
  10. Bohica6-284

    Bohica6-284 New Member

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    As others have said your ability is as important as the rifle and caliber you are using. On deer sized game you have about a 10" vital area for a clean kill. So go practice with the load you want to use at those ranges and see what you can do on a target. Honestly, for hunting, keep it realistic like 300 yards or less. I have shot up to 1200yds in competition and mu longest shot made on an animal was just a groundhog in PA. It was a 506yd shot on a large hog, no wind, warm barrel and I knew exactly what my rifle and bullet would do, the rest was up to me. On a groundhog, you pretty much either make a kill shot or you just miss so I wasn't concerned with the distance. On a deer, it's easy to wound one and go on a tracking expedition!
    On a side not, the caliber you have is extremely capable at those ranges and a quality bullet will penetrate and expand just fine when it gets there.
     
  11. dteed4094

    dteed4094 New Member

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    Kill zone

    I think if you want a quick, clean kill you need to shrink your kill zone down to 6 inches. You may kill at a 10 inch zone but on the outer extremes it probably won't be quick at 300 yds.
     
  12. Bohica6-284

    Bohica6-284 New Member

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    Well speaking to the chest region of a deer and imagining a paper plate size area which is 10" you would hit the lungs and or the heart which is all the average hunter is looking for at any range and will provide just as clean of a kill at any given range. But by all means, aim small, miss small. If you are looking for a 6" target area even better, it will further ensure a good hit.
     
  13. Alvah

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    Long shots

    Interesting thread and comments. One dear to my heart. The problem as I identify it is the average hunter, whom you guys seem to be addressing here, couldn't tell you how far any deer is at any range. Keeping it at 250 yds. is a good suggestion because modern "Mags" will shoot pretty much dead on like shooting down a pipe at that range. Just shoot the deer, no hold over and such. Unless the wind is howling, it wont matter either. However, under good conditions and with some understanding of your weapon, longer shots are not difficult with a nice firearm. I would encourage anyone to rangefind these shots in advance of seeing something to shoot, not just guess at it. Many of you mentioned shooting at extreme ranges but I know you will agree that looking over a meadow, a valley, and other vista's can be very deceiving. We practice at 300 and I know the gun out to 400 but you just have to think about the shot, your rest, the wind, even if you know the yardage to perfection(laser rangefinder). I missed one at 280 this year and I can only blame myself. Hell, I would love to say I never miss, but you know I would be lieing!;) Bottom line, practice, be sure of the range beyond 300, and have all the other variables worked out before you squeeze the trigger.

    Alvah
     
  14. 270 win

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    This year i made a 275 yard shot on a whitetail buck, wit my 270, i had a cross wind of about 30mph, I only took the shot because I know what my rifle and me can and can not do.
     
  15. howquig

    howquig New Member

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    Well I want to thank all of you for your input I did get a shot this year it was about 300 yards and was a clean kill so I am very satisfied with the gun and my own performance with it. But again thank you all for alot of good advice.