What's the range of a 7.62 x 39?

From what I know of the rifle and cartridge, anything over a fixed 4x is wasted. No scope can help you hit, it only helps you see and a 4x makes a 200 Yd. target look like it's only 50 yards away, surely anyone can hit the target with that sight picture.

 

Well, accuracy is a relitive thing and accuracy it ain't the cartridge, it's the launch vehicle. You should be "minute of deer" at 200 yards but only range testing it can tell. But the launch velocity limits the effective trajectory to around 200 yards with any significant terminal energy.

That cartridge and rifle isn't designed for long range deer hunting, it was intended for close in "spray and pray" people shooting and for that it works well.

 

now i have an SKS with a 4-12 by 42 scope made by famous maker (thats there name a cheep gun a cheep scope) and i am getting 2" groups at 500 yards give or take a yard or to my range finder is old
im not saying that 500 yards is long range just that is wat im getting

 

well never had the opportunity to get my hands around one my self but have herd good things

 

I would say again, for accuracy "...only range testing it can tell." But, with that cartridge, a 4x will be plenty of magnification.

 

never go with wat you need get more that so you have some thing to play with
(get your minds out of the gutter now)
never underestimate the power of a weapon in competent hands

 

"i am getting 2" groups at 500 yards give or take a yard"

Gnoll, I ain't saying that's not so, haven't seen your targets nor your 500 yards but that's a LOOONG shot for an assult rifle cartridge. Don't know if you're shooting factory, surplus mil or hand loads but for most full charges in that cartridge it will drop about 5 5 1/2 feet at 500 if the sights are zeroed at 200! Wow.
And a 2" group at that range requires (1) about a 3/8" group at 100 yards and (2) absolutely no cross wind and (3) a target grade trigger and (4) high grade optics to even see how to shoot such groups.

Very few high quality bolt action .30 cal. target rifles shooting high velocity cartridges that have been precision loaded with target grade bullets can equal the accuracy of your Russian 7.62x39 Saiga. You need to treat that thing with kid glooves to preserve such an exceptional rifle from any damage that will bring it back to earth. And stock up on 10,000 rounds of that awesome ammo too.

 

Oops, I seem to have touched a nerve without intending to, in fact tried very hard not too. What did I say that was factually wrong or misleading? OK, I missed that he is shooting an SKS but that makes his 2"/500 yard accurarcy claim even harder to accept. But be sure to post your own 500 yard 7.62x39 accuracy and prove my skeptisicm wrong, I would love to hear about it.

You don't think that a 4x scope effectively divides the 200 yd. visual range by 4?

I thought to answer your quesion for a knowledgeable point of view, didn't occur to me that you would resent valid info as from an "expert". Oh well, it don't matter do it, you do it Gnolls way and be happy! Have a grand day.

 

Accepted, no offense taken by me anyway. I really didn't want to say 2"/500 is pure BS so I chose to give factual points to refute that as so unlikely as to be impossible.

I was laughing so hard when I read one post that I missed he was shooting an SKS, I'd have collapsed on the floor if it had seen that the first time!

Perhaps I am less than totally patient with bad information being passed to those who truly seek to know and understand but are blown off course by windy folks with stories to tell. Thought maybe I could give both you and him facts to consider and both of you would see the truth without me pushing it off on either of you.

Learn to sift through the BS or the net won't offer much help. Be cool..

 

well ok u got my i reload alot and there hot (not that i wont share but i think i might bore you with the specks of the rounds i load)
now i dont shoot in a standing position when i do this
now as for optics the knobs on the scope are for wind i know how to use them
so do You live in AZ come shoot with me i dont remember if it sed with your Av
if not where do u live maby ill hunt were u live ill shoot with u
and if a man cant handle the truth what can he handel
dude i dont make stuff up
dont care if u trust me i dont trust you

 

well here we go
disclaimer as with any reloading it is dangerous and should be done by a well qualified individual i hold know responsibility for the condition of your fire arm or the ability or quality of your equipment so i hold NO liability for your safety or health
now that sed u cant sew me!!!!!
ok with this reload i do have some feed probs but in a bolt it should work better
i use Sierra #2100 110 gr.RN bullets
for powder i use AA-1680 26.5 gr.
CCI# 34 primer
head setting at1.95"
ok now the 308 bullet i used is not what the AK or SKS shoot it works well
remember this is close to the limits for the powder live hard or go home but build to these limits for your safety be shure your gun can handle the pressure
want to tell if the high pressure is occurring in your weapon regester for my class
now i have good simple target round
fun shooter and the feed problem gone round
use ing the proper dies .311
125gr. #2305 Sierra SPT bullet
powder IMR 4198 at 23.4 gr.
CCI# 34 primer
head set2.185"
like to bump fire this

now some history
the 6mm PPC considered possibly the most accurate cartridge ever developed
descended from the 7.62 by 39mm
but thats apples and oranges
good shooting and oranges but still good to know when we are talking bullets