Whats the Big Deal with the Mosin?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Trez, Oct 6, 2011.

  1. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    I do own a Mosin 91/30 sniper, and like to collect old military guns. I realize they have a place and purpose. Ive never been wowed by the gun, and dont see why people go buy a bushel of them... Is it just its a cheap gun with cheap ammo? Most of 'em look like they were chiseled out of a block of metal...

    I really dont like the bolt design, out of all the mil-surps ive shot it seems to be the hardest to work and has the most awkward safety. I hear how bad a Arisaka safety is, but its way better than the Mosin. Most other actions ive shot it seems the "work" is split, (Extracts shell, then, chamber and cock on closing) Where as the Mosin the "work" is done all at once..(Extract and cock on opening, then, chamber) Im not saying that it is, but the bolt and action doesnt look as strong as other mil-surps, (no 3rd safety lug, top strap over the bolt)

    Im not trying to bash the Mosin...... Like I said I have one, love it, and would never sell it, but I wouldnt go buy 3 more either.... Id rather use the money and buy a nicer old mil-surp... :p

    Just curious whats all the hubbub's all about......
     
  2. Boyerracing343

    Boyerracing343 New Member Supporter

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    I enjoy mine mostly because it is pretty darn accurate at 100+ yards and the ammo is cheap. Not much else to say other than I really do enjoy shooting it. :D
     

  3. Dr. Marneaus

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    I think part of the appeal is...its a gun for 100 bucks.

    Another part is that ammo is DIRT cheap.

    Another part is that they are plenty accurate....and are 100 bucks.

    Another part is that the caliber is more than useful...could be used for hunting, or stopping 2 legged predators....for 100 bucks.

    Great rifle to have just laying around.
     
  4. 762

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    that pretty much sums up why i'm gonna buy one. just one. i have a remington 700P if i wanna shoot a bunch of bullets into the same hole.
     
  5. jjfuller1

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    i have two, 91/30, and a m44. and i love em. but thats all i would buy. except maybe the sniper version if it was cheap enough. its great because its fun to fire. the recoil, muzzle flash. cheap ammo and cheap gun all combine to make it wonderful
     
  6. Firearms4ever

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    It's mainly due to the price tag of both the rifles and the ammunition. Another factor is just personal preferance. What's attractive to me about the Mosin is the price of both the ammunition and rifle, but also I just in general like Russian firearms. I too like all types of firearms and military firearms in particular, but the Russians in my opinion make really rugged, reliable, and strong firearms. Don't get me wrong I like other firearms like the Mauser, Lee Enfield, and Garand to name a few, but I would like them more if ammunition was more available and cheaper than it is.
     
  7. trip286

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    Ditto on all these reasons. No it aint nothing special. but its cheap, good, relatively accurate, and cheap to shoot.

    For the hardcore collectors, there are so many different variations that it's almost like putting together a puzzle. Just these variations alone, one of each specimen would constitute an entire firearms collection.

    Variations of the Rifles Mosin-Nagant

    This is just a start. I found a pictorial version but it's unavailable right now. It showed all these variants in a family tree type of diagram with pictures of examples.

    I'm not a collector though, I only have the one, and will likely keep just the one, unless I run across a sniper for a good price.
     
  8. jpattersonnh

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    I guess cheap, fun, and fairly accurate is the main reason for 99%. Now the little gem of a Finn being Raffled off in the club house section is more of a collector.
     
  9. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    All of the reasons above are good enough to own a 91/30 or two. I, on the other hand am one of the folks the OP was asking about, I have more than a couple of dozen of 'em.

    I am a life-long student of history, and especially the history of WWII. The ability to own a part of that history is amazing to me. The Soviets were always short on firearms, among other things, so that when you hold one of these guns, you are holding a rifle that may have been used in Stalingrad, or the battle of Kursk, or shot at Germans in Berlin. Any Mosin Nagant, dated 1944 or earlier has a very high percentage chance of being a vet.

    With the Mosin Nagant rifles there are a lot of angles you can persue in collecting them. Some folks only collect the ones used by the Finns. Some folks will only seek the ones made in the Tula Arsenal, etc. For a working man with a limited toy budget, these are a great rifles.

    I would really like to have an extensive collection of American WWII firearms, but the cost is prohibitive to me.

    Collecting, in itself, is an odd habit. Any object you can think of, someone will collect. (For my wife, it is colbalt blue glass) Last year while picking through an antique store, I looked at a condom collection. No joke. At least they were all NIB.

    Let me know if you see a good deal on a Mosin, I am looking for a '37 Izhevsk, MO marked.:)
     
  10. 303tom

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    Here is why !!!!!!

    http://www.armoryblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Mosin-Nagant-family-chart-tree.jpg
     
  11. trip286

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    I just picked one up today. Stamped 1943 and the numbers match.
    I don't have any 7.62 ammo though so I'll have to start stocking up on that caliber now. I may swing out tomorrow and pick up a box or two of what they have at the store and go plinking tomorrow if the weather is good.
     
  13. trip286

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    Most retail places will have new production ammo (if they have it at all) which is non corrosive, but is comparable to regular rifle ammo prices. Like 17-25 bucks per box of 20. Now the corrosive milsurp ammo that you can mail order or pick up at a gun show is real cheap. Like 40-80 bucks for a tin of 440 rounds (depending on where you get it) and 120-200 for a crate, which is 2 tins at 880 rounds total, again depending on where and who you get it from.

    The milsurp shoots perfectly fine, just make sure you clean it good. I use windex, hoppes #9, and an abundance of elbow grease.
     
  14. wb_carpenter

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    CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP

    Cheap guns and big bore ammo whats not to like?
     
  15. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    Tell me about it..... The next guns I plan to get are a IHC M1 Garand and a military Colt 1911. Nether is cheap... :(
     
  16. Firearms4ever

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    I hear ya on that one! I was at the other local shop a few months ago and I had to shake my head at their price. On one of the gun racks side by side was a Argentine Mauser I believe in superb condition selling for $150 and next to it was a poor condition M1 Carbine for around $700 :eek:.
     
  17. Snubshooter

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    In the 80's it was SMLEs $70 and ammo was cheap. In the 60s it was M1 carbines REALLY cheap and they were giving the ammo away. In the 50's you could mail order a nazi Luger or a 1911 for $10 or an '03 for about the same. All the milsurps have their accessible time then the supply dries up and the price goes up and then they cost too much to shoot. Enjoy them in their time.

    Maybe when DoD issues "Phasers" I'll be able to get a 2011 Vintage M4 for $100.... WHAT a deal!!!!
     
  18. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    I could crap 6 feet. Consider it my rocket booster for when I jump on that deal.
     
  19. Rick1967

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    It's the only rifle I have that cost $100 and can hit a metal gong at 500 yards.
     
  20. canebrake

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    Because I can put the bayonet on here in Ft. Lauderdale and stab someone up in Boca Raton with out leaving my backyard! :rolleyes::p
     

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